Hackers target uni website (From Salisbury Journal)

For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

I'm not sure denying students the tools they need to study is justified in satisfying your 'karma', whatever that is.

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

Yes, I'm sure those hackers though of your problems with the 'student ghetto' when conducting this attack.

"...the Daily Echo can reveal."

I am so glad you cleared that up, and here was me thinking that www.sotontab.co.uk broke this story last week. But no, if the Echo claims they found this story, it must be true.

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

Sorry, I completely forgot that the 25,000+ students that study at the university add no value to enhancing the local economy.

I also didn't realise that anyone was of the opinion Swaythling was a nice area, with "lovely houses".

Anon1342 wrote:
"...the Daily Echo can reveal."

I am so glad you cleared that up, and here was me thinking that www.sotontab.co.uk broke this story last week. But no, if the Echo claims they found this story, it must be true.

Yeah, I'm sure loads of people in the city as a whole scour a small student website for the latest news.

AdrianSmith wrote:

Anon1342 wrote:
"...the Daily Echo can reveal."

I am so glad you cleared that up, and here was me thinking that www.sotontab.co.uk broke this story last week. But no, if the Echo claims they found this story, it must be true.

Yeah, I'm sure loads of people in the city as a whole scour a small student website for the latest news.

Clearly the Daily Echo do! Not the first and I'm sure not the last time one of The Tab's stories will be claimed as "revealed" by the Echo

Anon1342 wrote:

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

Sorry, I completely forgot that the 25,000+ students that study at the university add no value to enhancing the local economy.

I also didn't realise that anyone was of the opinion Swaythling was a nice area, with "lovely houses".

Whilst I cannot condone cyber attacks on any computer system, I would say the Flower Roads Estate close to the Uni does have many lovely council and owner occupied houses. Unfortunately it's the ones that have been bought and sold to private landlords that tend to look grotty, and the worst of them tend to be the student HMOs. It's all well and good saying that thousands of students benefit Southampton's economy when the Uni has made no real effort to provide sufficient halls of residents for them, and we have over 14500 on the housing list, many of whom should be in the 3 bed homes hogged by students.

lukeobrien wrote:

AdrianSmith wrote:

Anon1342 wrote:
"...the Daily Echo can reveal."

I am so glad you cleared that up, and here was me thinking that www.sotontab.co.uk broke this story last week. But no, if the Echo claims they found this story, it must be true.

Yeah, I'm sure loads of people in the city as a whole scour a small student website for the latest news.

Clearly the Daily Echo do! Not the first and I'm sure not the last time one of The Tab's stories will be claimed as "revealed" by the Echo

Or perhaps the uni's press office told the Echo about it and it has nothing to do with the student site at all.

Just a thought....

It's time we saw an end to the use of the word "cyber" as any sort of relevant qualifier. It's 2012, information technology is an everyday part of life now, we don't need to pretend it's some murky scary world that nobody understands any more.

lukeobrien wrote:

AdrianSmith wrote:

Anon1342 wrote:
"...the Daily Echo can reveal."

I am so glad you cleared that up, and here was me thinking that www.sotontab.co.uk broke this story last week. But no, if the Echo claims they found this story, it must be true.

Yeah, I'm sure loads of people in the city as a whole scour a small student website for the latest news.

Clearly the Daily Echo do! Not the first and I'm sure not the last time one of The Tab's stories will be claimed as "revealed" by the Echo

In what scientists are calling "pretty friggin' obvious, really", news stories are often to be found from more than one source.

In fact, I've just had a look at the website in question. The story there says Southampton 'might' be attacked, while the Echo clearly says it has happened with first hand information from the university itself.

Obviously the students didn't do their story very well!

I wonder how many stories the student site has taken from the Echo?

DDOS is not the same as hacking. It's like equating a sit-down protest to 9-11.

I do wish the media would get their heads around this. Surely Dan Kerins is able to advise his colleagues on this stuff?

cantthinkofone wrote:
DDOS is not the same as hacking. It's like equating a sit-down protest to 9-11.

I do wish the media would get their heads around this. Surely Dan Kerins is able to advise his colleagues on this stuff?

Hmmm. Yes, and no. A DDoS is not hacking - cracking, really, but that battle is long lost - but to actually have the horsepower to carry one out successfully involves having previously hacked elsewhere. Quick, find me 10000 computers I can remotely tell to participate in a DDoS, without doing any sort of hacking.

In any case, they said hackers carried out a DDoS. They didn't say the DDoS was the hack. Gunmen might rob a bank, but they don't necessarily shoot anyone.

Georgem wrote:

cantthinkofone wrote:
DDOS is not the same as hacking. It's like equating a sit-down protest to 9-11.

I do wish the media would get their heads around this. Surely Dan Kerins is able to advise his colleagues on this stuff?

Hmmm. Yes, and no. A DDoS is not hacking - cracking, really, but that battle is long lost - but to actually have the horsepower to carry one out successfully involves having previously hacked elsewhere. Quick, find me 10000 computers I can remotely tell to participate in a DDoS, without doing any sort of hacking.

In any case, they said hackers carried out a DDoS. They didn't say the DDoS was the hack. Gunmen might rob a bank, but they don't necessarily shoot anyone.

I get your point, but do you really think for a second that any hacking was involved?

This stuff is just script-kiddies making use of previously established bot-nets. I highly doubt any of them would have the skills to hack a walnut tbh.

It's semantics anyway really - I admit to being a bit of a pedant on this.

What I DO find interesting is the motivation:

"claims the university had published the names of people with symptoms of autism and ADHD – something the educational institution denies."

Intriguing.

Whether the accusation is true or false, there's clearly a story of some sort there. It would be good if one of the Echo's intrepid reporters did a bit of investigation.

cantthinkofone wrote:

Georgem wrote:

cantthinkofone wrote:
DDOS is not the same as hacking. It's like equating a sit-down protest to 9-11.

I do wish the media would get their heads around this. Surely Dan Kerins is able to advise his colleagues on this stuff?

Hmmm. Yes, and no. A DDoS is not hacking - cracking, really, but that battle is long lost - but to actually have the horsepower to carry one out successfully involves having previously hacked elsewhere. Quick, find me 10000 computers I can remotely tell to participate in a DDoS, without doing any sort of hacking.

In any case, they said hackers carried out a DDoS. They didn't say the DDoS was the hack. Gunmen might rob a bank, but they don't necessarily shoot anyone.

I get your point, but do you really think for a second that any hacking was involved?

This stuff is just script-kiddies making use of previously established bot-nets. I highly doubt any of them would have the skills to hack a walnut tbh.

It's semantics anyway really - I admit to being a bit of a pedant on this.

What I DO find interesting is the motivation:

"claims the university had published the names of people with symptoms of autism and ADHD – something the educational institution denies."

Intriguing.

Whether the accusation is true or false, there's clearly a story of some sort there. It would be good if one of the Echo's intrepid reporters did a bit of investigation.

I'd be interested in knowing more about the motives, too.

Inform Al wrote:

Anon1342 wrote:

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

Sorry, I completely forgot that the 25,000+ students that study at the university add no value to enhancing the local economy.

I also didn't realise that anyone was of the opinion Swaythling was a nice area, with "lovely houses".

Whilst I cannot condone cyber attacks on any computer system, I would say the Flower Roads Estate close to the Uni does have many lovely council and owner occupied houses. Unfortunately it's the ones that have been bought and sold to private landlords that tend to look grotty, and the worst of them tend to be the student HMOs. It's all well and good saying that thousands of students benefit Southampton's economy when the Uni has made no real effort to provide sufficient halls of residents for them, and we have over 14500 on the housing list, many of whom should be in the 3 bed homes hogged by students.

Ah yes you'd be well qualified to speak on student matters - weren't you outed on another thread for claiming to be a student of an illustrious university when in fact it was a complete lie? I'm sure people here would be pleased to learn what it was you think you studied there - you know, garnish the lily a bit. Go on, give it a go.It won't be the first time will it...

The Wickham Man wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

Anon1342 wrote:

chavfreezone wrote:
For what this uni has done to the local area of Bassett and Swaythling especially demolishing banks of lovely houses and other buildings whilst letting areas rot to ultimately force people to sell up whist creating a huge student ghetto bit by bit perhaps a bit of Karma at work here. Just a thought.

Sorry, I completely forgot that the 25,000+ students that study at the university add no value to enhancing the local economy.

I also didn't realise that anyone was of the opinion Swaythling was a nice area, with "lovely houses".

Whilst I cannot condone cyber attacks on any computer system, I would say the Flower Roads Estate close to the Uni does have many lovely council and owner occupied houses. Unfortunately it's the ones that have been bought and sold to private landlords that tend to look grotty, and the worst of them tend to be the student HMOs. It's all well and good saying that thousands of students benefit Southampton's economy when the Uni has made no real effort to provide sufficient halls of residents for them, and we have over 14500 on the housing list, many of whom should be in the 3 bed homes hogged by students.

Ah yes you'd be well qualified to speak on student matters - weren't you outed on another thread for claiming to be a student of an illustrious university when in fact it was a complete lie? I'm sure people here would be pleased to learn what it was you think you studied there - you know, garnish the lily a bit. Go on, give it a go.It won't be the first time will it...

You are such an ignorant pr&t. Firstly Imperial is a college not a university, it's part of London University, and I have never actually said what I was doing there, although funnily enough I was there the other day and it has changed a lot since my day, but there again so probably has your main sourcr of education, the nursery school. Importanyly Imperial had halls of residence sufficient for ALL freshers, unlike Southampton that is ignoring its duty of care to freshers. That is the important point, not your stupid prejudices.