Police station plan is a shambles

WHAT a predictable shambles plans for selling off Salisbury Police Station and reorganising policing in and around the city has turned into.

The scheme was flawed from the start and the timescale for carrying it out unachievable.

Experienced and wise old hands like retired former Salisbury police chief Frank Lockyer warned the schedule was unworkable at a public meeting last July and that view has now been fully vindicated by subsequent events. A 12-month postponement from December 2013 to 2014 was announced not long after that meeting.

Now the Journal has revealed that a proposed temporary custody unit to replace existing facilities has proved too costly and that for the next two years, until a permanent new unit is built, suspects arrested in the city will be transported to Melksham, some 30 miles away.

Meanwhile 100 response officers serving Salisbury and south Wiltshire will be based eight miles out of the city in Amesbury.

And a further 50 officers in neighbourhood and plain clothes teams will be relocated to the city’s Bourne Hill council offices.

It all seems more like Keystone Cops rather the effective and professional policing we received from Wiltshire Constabulary in past times.

The force will inevitably shoulder the blame for allowing itself to be steamrolled into making promises it had no real chance of keeping.

But the real culprits are Wiltshire Council, Police and Crime Commissioner Angus Macpherson and Salisbury MP John Glen, whose indecent haste in trying to get the old Wilton Road police station dedicated as the site for a university technical college, triggered the chaos.

David Vallis, Durrington

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7:24pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Schoolmum999 says...

Well said, I completely agree.
Well said, I completely agree. Schoolmum999

6:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

FreeBornJohn says...

Yes, aptly summed up.
Yes, aptly summed up. FreeBornJohn

8:12pm Sun 26 Jan 14

vcg507 says...

The new PCC is having an impact on local Policing as he promised he would. Sadly we had all assumed the impact would be a positive one and not the total destruction of a decent Police service. Well done sir!
The new PCC is having an impact on local Policing as he promised he would. Sadly we had all assumed the impact would be a positive one and not the total destruction of a decent Police service. Well done sir! vcg507

4:52am Mon 27 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

PCC

Policing Chaos Confirmed?
PCC Policing Chaos Confirmed? karlmarx

5:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Petera says...

I repeat what I have said before. The whole thing is a joke. What will they do when they have too many people in custody to put on the Melksham bus? Hold them in the back of police vans,tying up policemen and women so preventing them from getting on with their jobs.Or will they just not arrest so many people?
I repeat what I have said before. The whole thing is a joke. What will they do when they have too many people in custody to put on the Melksham bus? Hold them in the back of police vans,tying up policemen and women so preventing them from getting on with their jobs.Or will they just not arrest so many people? Petera

5:48pm Mon 27 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

The real victims of this crime, no pun intended, are the actual police officers who do a superb job in and around Salisbury. The last thing they need is to have to waste their precious time trying to make this ridiculous fiasco feasible.
If this is what we can expect from the introduction of PCCs then I would suggest that the sooner they are dumped the better, just look at the savings that could be made having a fiasco-less police force supported to reduce and prevent crime instead of turning the police force we have into players in Keystone Cops sketch.
9 jobs has to go for this co*k up!
The real victims of this crime, no pun intended, are the actual police officers who do a superb job in and around Salisbury. The last thing they need is to have to waste their precious time trying to make this ridiculous fiasco feasible. If this is what we can expect from the introduction of PCCs then I would suggest that the sooner they are dumped the better, just look at the savings that could be made having a fiasco-less police force supported to reduce and prevent crime instead of turning the police force we have into players in Keystone Cops sketch. 9 jobs has to go for this co*k up! karlmarx

6:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

journalist1 says...

May I recommend an article in today's Western Daily Press. Wiltshire is about to become the first county in the country to take control of police back office staff. Whether they like it or not 215 of them willl be moved from Devizes to Trowbridge and their union fears redundancies. Unison says it will put the public at risk because council managers aren't used to the demands of police support work.

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May I recommend an article in today's Western Daily Press. Wiltshire is about to become the first county in the country to take control of police back office staff. Whether they like it or not 215 of them willl be moved from Devizes to Trowbridge and their union fears redundancies. Unison says it will put the public at risk because council managers aren't used to the demands of police support work. http://www.westernda ilypress.co.uk/Handi ng-police-staff-Wilt shire-Council-contro l/story-20504244-det ail/story.html journalist1

7:04pm Mon 27 Jan 14

IanMcL says...

vcg507 wrote:
The new PCC is having an impact on local Policing as he promised he would. Sadly we had all assumed the impact would be a positive one and not the total destruction of a decent Police service. Well done sir!
Not many of us thought the PCC post would solve anything.

Looks like the popular view was right. Change to deflect a miserable Government coming under the spotlight.
[quote][p][bold]vcg507[/bold] wrote: The new PCC is having an impact on local Policing as he promised he would. Sadly we had all assumed the impact would be a positive one and not the total destruction of a decent Police service. Well done sir![/p][/quote]Not many of us thought the PCC post would solve anything. Looks like the popular view was right. Change to deflect a miserable Government coming under the spotlight. IanMcL

7:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

HappyChappie15 says...

Each element of this plan makes no practical sense whatsoever. One unfortunate decision, closure of the police station, has led to further inappropriate decisions in a frantic attempt to find alternative arrangements against a timetable that is unrealistic. This is a faulty planning process and will lead to decisions being regretted in due course. It will be too late to correct anything unfortunately.
Each element of this plan makes no practical sense whatsoever. One unfortunate decision, closure of the police station, has led to further inappropriate decisions in a frantic attempt to find alternative arrangements against a timetable that is unrealistic. This is a faulty planning process and will lead to decisions being regretted in due course. It will be too late to correct anything unfortunately. HappyChappie15

5:41am Tue 28 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

It's hard to believe but, it gets worse and worse by the day. I have been reliably informed that the new 5 rivers campus will no longer have a crèche for the children of those using the leisure facilities. Can someone please tell me that this isn't true.
It's hard to believe but, it gets worse and worse by the day. I have been reliably informed that the new 5 rivers campus will no longer have a crèche for the children of those using the leisure facilities. Can someone please tell me that this isn't true. karlmarx

6:19am Tue 28 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

I couldn't help but notice how remarkably similar the Police HQ in Devizes is to Salisbury police station. The buildings are almost identical, check it out on google images.

No doubt the Police HQ in Devizes suffers the same maintenance and running costs as Salisbury police station, now what was that magic figure bandied about by the axe men and 9 jobs....??? That's it, £500,000.
So, when is the Police HQ in Devizes closing down?
I couldn't help but notice how remarkably similar the Police HQ in Devizes is to Salisbury police station. The buildings are almost identical, check it out on google images. No doubt the Police HQ in Devizes suffers the same maintenance and running costs as Salisbury police station, now what was that magic figure bandied about by the axe men and 9 jobs....??? That's it, £500,000. So, when is the Police HQ in Devizes closing down? karlmarx

10:19pm Tue 28 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

Researching the public transport options for getting someone back from Melksham custody cells. After 21:00 Hrs if you end up in the cells at Melksham from Salisbury then you are there for the night even if you are released. No public transport options available so, how many custody cells are there at Melksham?
Researching the public transport options for getting someone back from Melksham custody cells. After 21:00 Hrs if you end up in the cells at Melksham from Salisbury then you are there for the night even if you are released. No public transport options available so, how many custody cells are there at Melksham? karlmarx

3:24pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Petera says...

I was speaking to a Salisbury solicitor yesterday who said it would be more trouble than it is worth to travel to Melksham and he for one would not be making the journey. So how are offenders going to be properly represented? The whole sorry mess just gets worse.
I was speaking to a Salisbury solicitor yesterday who said it would be more trouble than it is worth to travel to Melksham and he for one would not be making the journey. So how are offenders going to be properly represented? The whole sorry mess just gets worse. Petera

4:46pm Wed 29 Jan 14

vcg507 says...

Detainees sometimes require family members as 'Appropriate Adults' How are the family members expected to get to and from Melksham? What if the detainee requires drugs collected from their home address. Who is going to fetch those? If there is physical evidence to obtain at the crime scene like a video or statements. Who is going to get those to Melksham. If a detainees house needs searching are officers going to get the keys transported from melksham and then back?

I could go on and on....I am sure you get the picture. It's ridiculous. Arrest rates will plummet and crime will increase.

A recent FOI request to Wiltshire Police revealed that on may days there are only one or two response units covering the entire Salisbury area. Further there have been several occasions when Melksham Custody is full. So where will the Salisbury detainees go then? No wonder the Police don't want a second public meeting - I doubt they have any answers.
Detainees sometimes require family members as 'Appropriate Adults' How are the family members expected to get to and from Melksham? What if the detainee requires drugs collected from their home address. Who is going to fetch those? If there is physical evidence to obtain at the crime scene like a video or statements. Who is going to get those to Melksham. If a detainees house needs searching are officers going to get the keys transported from melksham and then back? I could go on and on....I am sure you get the picture. It's ridiculous. Arrest rates will plummet and crime will increase. A recent FOI request to Wiltshire Police revealed that on may days there are only one or two response units covering the entire Salisbury area. Further there have been several occasions when Melksham Custody is full. So where will the Salisbury detainees go then? No wonder the Police don't want a second public meeting - I doubt they have any answers. vcg507

5:23am Thu 30 Jan 14

IanMcL says...

9 Jobs No cells - Brain or criminal
9 Jobs No cells - Brain or criminal IanMcL

11:28am Thu 30 Jan 14

gingin says...

The whole thing is one big fiasco!

The need to streamline and obtain best practice is commendable but not at the cost of people's safety. If you are released and can't get home what happens then?

Get rid of "9 jobs" he is nothing short of a liability!!
The whole thing is one big fiasco! The need to streamline and obtain best practice is commendable but not at the cost of people's safety. If you are released and can't get home what happens then? Get rid of "9 jobs" he is nothing short of a liability!! gingin

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