I fear for hospital staff's welfare

I AM with David Vallis on the running of the NHS today compared with yesteryear (Journal, August 2).

I sat on the junior consultative committee which consisted of staff from many other working areas.

In those days staff views were not held in contempt.

This led to a much more family type of attitude and people worked much better together.

We did have hospital managers but far fewer than today.

The hospital had a full team of maintenance men and cleaners, sewing room and porters.

There was never any doubt the place was clean and tidy; matron saw to that.

Nurses did not have many helpers, they did just about all that was required on their ward.

Rarely anything went out to contract, it was all in-house. The food was excellent and on time.

The hospital management team were mostly local business people or retired managers and it worked quite well.

They may have still had targets to reach but not the priority it is today.

I have had to use the hospital quite a lot of late and the service given by the staff has been excellent. I do, though, fear for their welfare.

JOHN WIGGLESWORTH, Salisbury

Comments(8)

karlmarx says...
5:49pm Thu 23 Aug 12

" I do, though, fear for their welfare."

it's a shame that the people who run the hospital don't have this opinion. The staff will somehow be expected to cope with the rising cost of living on the back of a considerable reduction in wages.
An interesting experiment indeed of which the outcome doesn't look too good for the staff. I wish them luck though, maybe we in Salisbury could set up a charity to help them cope with the impending disaster.

karlmarx says...
1:38pm Sat 25 Aug 12

Unions refuse to recognise pay cartel

23 August 2012
Doctors and trade union leaders have refused to recognise a regional NHS pay cartel, and are insisting national terms and conditions must be maintained.

The BMA and other negotiators, including the Royal College of Nursing and UNISON, have made it clear that any talks on the pay, terms and conditions of their members must be done at a national level.

NHS staff-side unions made the joint announcement following a meeting yesterday at which they discussed the SWC (South West Pay, Terms and Conditions Consortium). The consortium made up of 20 NHS trusts is looking to break away from national pay, terms and conditions.


It will be interesting to see exactly who the trust will be 'discussing' these proposals with.

aldonreaper says...
6:31pm Sat 25 Aug 12

The good reputation od salisbury hospital will never be recovered if this goes ahead, they want the staff to pay for PFI buildings that are costing millions and the so called experts at the top will say its not our fault, they will sack staff its already being discussed, I know I was there, they are already reducing the staff before this happens

karlmarx says...
2:37pm Sun 26 Aug 12

I expect the 'trickle down' effect of having less 'no disposable income' will impact upon local commerce. I realise that not all staff at Salisbury Trust live in Salisbury but, local businesses don't need yet another nail in their coffin.

Grampie says...
10:44am Mon 27 Aug 12

Pay ordinary working people less, so they will work harder for longer hours. Give millionaires tax breaks so they will work harder.

These are the policies of Mr Glen's group Free Enterprise Group http://www.freeenter
prise.org.uk/
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2012/

hertzen says...
2:02pm Wed 29 Aug 12

The discussion document released by the pay cartel - available at www.meetingthechalle
nge.info - reveals that the cartel does not have the authority, responsibility nor the mandate to engage in negotiations, as sovereignty rests with the individual particpating trusts.
It reveals that foundations trusts nationally expect their workforces to reduce by 6% during 2012-14 anyway.
Although it has been claimed that foundations trusts have the power to set their own terms and conditions, the document reveals that they can only allow changes that are the same (in cost) or more expensive than Agenda for Change, which excludes doctors, dentsists and senior management.
So what exactly is the cartel for, except to waste public money and alienate members of staff?

karlmarx says...
7:50am Thu 30 Aug 12

Who will they be 'negotiating' with?
There are no professional bodies or unions within the NHS that recognise the pay cartel as it has nothing to do with healthcare, only accountancy.

karlmarx says...
6:43pm Sun 2 Sep 12

One of my sources inform me that the chief executive has been placed on 'extended leave'.
Could be story there for further investigation Salisbury Journal.
Maybe not 'Watergate' but surely 'South West pay cartel gate' warrants further enquiries.

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