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Inadequate response to yobbish behaviour
MAY I answer the letter from Gillian Newton to Postbag on July 10 about Gainsborough Close, Bemerton Heath?
I live in the troubled area of Gainsborough Close and I know I speak for most of the residents when I say the problem is getting more and more out of control.
We have been in touch with the council and the police and whilst things are being done, there is a need for more policemen.
One policeman and two or three community beat police trying to halt a growing problem is just not enough, however hard they try.
In the last two years we have had a man beaten on the head with a pipe of some sort, drug buying/selling, noise disputes, men driving tiny motor cycles and off road bikes over our lawns and path ways, and attempts at getting into the local shop.
We have to put up with abuse from youngsters either looking into your front room windows or fighting on your lawns and if you dare to look at them, you get threatening behaviour or verbal abuse, or coke/lemonade fizzed up and thrown all over your windows or it may even be eggs.
There is also an increase in some misguided adults buying drinks in the shop and giving them to youngsters and with the school holidays about to start this can only get worse.
We have had our bell pushes stolen and plants taken from our gardens.
Last Christmas seven windscreens were smashed in the car park in one night, a hedge set on fire and burnt down and we get stones thrown from the car park aimed at our back windows.
Anyone living here is too frightened to be named because they fear reprisals.
Friday and Saturday nights are a nightmare because there is always someone coming home in the early hours shouting and screaming whilst under the influence of drink.
No one seems to care about anyone else anymore.
This Saturday night we had a sudden burst of Industrial type fireworks set off at 10.30pm frightening anyone just going to bed.
Something needs to be done to solve the problems here.
It is a nice place to live most of the time and most of us are happy here but there is a limit.
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12:34pm Thursday 31st July 2008
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CommentPosted by: James Joneshie, salisbury on 4:47pm Sat 2 Aug 08
Here is what to do. We are fighting a war in this country, the police are not adequately resourced or trained to the correct mindset to tackle this problem.
It is occurring up and down the country, ironically more so in the quintessential market towns of this country than in other places, 10 years ago you could walk around towns such as Salisbury on a night and never see an 'incident', now you are guaranteed to see at least something.
Your problem is one of living on an estate/suburb where these people either spend their evenings or go back to after getting intoxicated elsewhere.
Get together as a community, the lazy ones ignore, the ones who are willing to participate get them to record everything and report it to the police regularly.
Give the police 6 weeks to act. If there is no reduction in the anti-social behaviour get to together again and form a group. We fought a war in this country 60 years ago for a right to live as a free citizen in a civilised democratic country. If that right has been removed then people need to understand that we are at war again and if you want to win you have to go out and win the battle. Of course the police will never endorse this, but just look where we are now. Do you want to forever heed their advice and let this once great country implode. You don't have to break the law, learn what the law is and use it in your favour, use reasonable force where due, understand the law regarding Citizen's arrests, join a self defence training course, you may be surprised how these individuals decide there is no fun in it when a sizeable section of the community acts against them.
The leftist politicians who have made this situation worse have no answers for you anymore. I already know of several groups based on the New York Guardian Angels that are ready to start operations in the UK.
It's a shame it has come to this but it has so people need to wake up, the police have a role but they won't solve this kind of problem for you.
Here is what to do. We are fighting a war in this country, the police are not adequately resourced or trained to the correct mindset to tackle this problem.
It is occurring up and down the country, ironically more so in the quintessential market towns of this country than in other places, 10 years ago you could walk around towns such as Salisbury on a night and never see an 'incident', now you are guaranteed to see at least something.
Your problem is one of living on an estate/suburb where these people either spend their evenings or go back to after getting intoxicated elsewhere.
Get together as a community, the lazy ones ignore, the ones who are willing to participate get them to record everything and report it to the police regularly.
Give the police 6 weeks to act. If there is no reduction in the anti-social behaviour get to together again and form a group. We fought a war in this country 60 years ago for a right to live as a free citizen in a civilised democratic country. If that right has been removed then people need to understand that we are at war again and if you want to win you have to go out and win the battle. Of course the police will never endorse this, but just look where we are now. Do you want to forever heed their advice and let this once great country implode. You don't have to break the law, learn what the law is and use it in your favour, use reasonable force where due, understand the law regarding Citizen's arrests, join a self defence training course, you may be surprised how these individuals decide there is no fun in it when a sizeable section of the community acts against them.
The leftist politicians who have made this situation worse have no answers for you anymore. I already know of several groups based on the New York Guardian Angels that are ready to start operations in the UK.
It's a shame it has come to this but it has so people need to wake up, the police have a role but they won't solve this kind of problem for you.
Posted by: pannison, Bemerton on 8:36pm Sun 3 Aug 08
A trip down Gainsborough Close, Bemerton Heath
I live in Bemerton and would like to recount a common trip on a Sunday to the local shop. I leave and within a few minutes find myself being stopped because a child no more than 12 years old has rode his bike across the foot path and blocked my passage to the point where I trip and have to steady myself by putting my hand on him, this causes shouts of Pedophile which makes me laugh but then I think what do they think a pedophile is? I continue but as I pass a destroyed bus stop an old woman has to stand the abuse of a group of teenagers. When I get to the shop the assistant is in a argument over the age of a child and his comments of "I've left school so I don't have to prove anything" makes me wounder what is going on here.I wounder was it worth calling the police , well that only makes you a target so is it worth it, to have pervert daubed across your house. Time and again we put up with this and nothing happens what if I had given the kid a clip around the ear, well it would have been me not him that is a fault. Call the police whats the point they just say they unable to do anything. So what are the families doing sitting outside drinking beer and egging them on. I see this time and again we say we have a role to play but if we don't have any back up we become the villeins not the victims.
A trip down Gainsborough Close, Bemerton Heath
I live in Bemerton and would like to recount a common trip on a Sunday to the local shop. I leave and within a few minutes find myself being stopped because a child no more than 12 years old has rode his bike across the foot path and blocked my passage to the point where I trip and have to steady myself by putting my hand on him, this causes shouts of Pedophile which makes me laugh but then I think what do they think a pedophile is? I continue but as I pass a destroyed bus stop an old woman has to stand the abuse of a group of teenagers. When I get to the shop the assistant is in a argument over the age of a child and his comments of "I've left school so I don't have to prove anything" makes me wounder what is going on here.I wounder was it worth calling the police , well that only makes you a target so is it worth it, to have pervert daubed across your house. Time and again we put up with this and nothing happens what if I had given the kid a clip around the ear, well it would have been me not him that is a fault. Call the police whats the point they just say they unable to do anything. So what are the families doing sitting outside drinking beer and egging them on. I see this time and again we say we have a role to play but if we don't have any back up we become the villeins not the victims.
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