Fears raised over 4,000 cyclists in Forest

A NEW Forest enthusiast has slammed a cycling event planned for April, fearing that “4,000 Lycra-clad lemmings” will be zooming round the villages and scaring the livestock.

Anita Sibley, who runs the Vizzit New Forest website, says she is “most concerned” about the Wiggle New Forest Spring Sportive, to be held for the fifth year on April 13 and 14, with routes of up to 86 miles around Downton and Lymington.

She said: “When similar events have taken place, cyclists ride four or five abreast on our narrow New Forest roads, often aggressively and with little or no concern for other road users.

“Bunching (riding closely in a group) is popular because it improves speed, as does undertaking cars.

“Although the organisers state this is not competitive, the cyclists are attempting to outdo their personal bests so, in effect, are racing themselves. If this is not a ‘competitive’ event then I would expect participants to adhere to the New Forest Cycling Code.

“Entrance fees and sponsorship mean each event is generating an estimated £1million for organisers.”

Organiser UK Sporting Events says on its website: “Although all our rides are non-competitive events most people still like to know how well they've done.

“With this in mind we will time each participant’s ride. When you complete your ride your time will be calculated and these timings, along with the timing award you achieved, will be displayed on the website.

“Each rider receives a timing award of bronze, silver or gold, depending on their average speed.”

Mrs Sibley added: “These huge events are putting local residents’ lives in danger.

“How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads?

“I’ve asked the New Forest NPA to report on its accountability and protocols for these large cycle events. We need to ensure events are safe for pedestrians, livestock, drivers and cyclists.

“They also need to be adequately publicised and policed. Many local residents are frightened to drive while these events take place.”

She added: “Our New Forest agencies seem to be toothless tigers and powerless to stop this carnage.

“Which one of them will have the creativity and tenacity to plug this dangerous but lucrative loophole and save us New Forest residents from being invaded once again by a group of Lycra-clad lemmings?”

At the time of going to press, UK Cycling Events was unvailable to comment.

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11:13am Thu 28 Feb 13

siimot says...

Not this again... still yet to hear of any injury's to the public from one of these events, sounds like a bunch of old **** with nothing better to do than moan about other people enjoying themselves :)
Not this again... still yet to hear of any injury's to the public from one of these events, sounds like a bunch of old **** with nothing better to do than moan about other people enjoying themselves :) siimot
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11:53am Thu 28 Feb 13

Forest Man says...

If the bicycle was invented tomorrow, it would be seen as the solution, not the problem.
If the bicycle was invented tomorrow, it would be seen as the solution, not the problem. Forest Man
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12:01pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Frogham Ferret says...

Nothing against recreational cycling by cyclists who obey the Highway Code, but these mass events disrupt the Forest for everyone else while making shedloads of money for the organisers who pay nothing to the maintenance of the Forest and its narrow roads.
Nothing against recreational cycling by cyclists who obey the Highway Code, but these mass events disrupt the Forest for everyone else while making shedloads of money for the organisers who pay nothing to the maintenance of the Forest and its narrow roads. Frogham Ferret
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12:20pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Dr S Brule says...

If you are worried about your journey being disrupted then I suggest you don't drive through the new forest anyway. It's one day and the forest should be there for everyone.
As for "contributing nothing to maintenance" - how much damage do cyclists inflict on the roads? How would you go about implementing a contribution? Should there be toll booths constructed over cattle grids?

Mrs Sibley claims that they will put residents lives in danger - where is her safety assessment? on what basis does she justify the expectation of "carnage".
If you are worried about your journey being disrupted then I suggest you don't drive through the new forest anyway. It's one day and the forest should be there for everyone. As for "contributing nothing to maintenance" - how much damage do cyclists inflict on the roads? How would you go about implementing a contribution? Should there be toll booths constructed over cattle grids? Mrs Sibley claims that they will put residents lives in danger - where is her safety assessment? on what basis does she justify the expectation of "carnage". Dr S Brule
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12:54pm Thu 28 Feb 13

siimot says...

Dr S Brule wrote:
If you are worried about your journey being disrupted then I suggest you don't drive through the new forest anyway. It's one day and the forest should be there for everyone.
As for "contributing nothing to maintenance" - how much damage do cyclists inflict on the roads? How would you go about implementing a contribution? Should there be toll booths constructed over cattle grids?

Mrs Sibley claims that they will put residents lives in danger - where is her safety assessment? on what basis does she justify the expectation of "carnage".
It's also worth noting not all the cyclist's leave at once, they are let out in small group's in the morning, plus they are not all doing the same route.

"“How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads?

I think the amount of cars on the roads causes more of a problem than the cyclists here,
As for putting lives in danger i would have thought the statistics would show more injury's to people or wildlife in the forest are cause by cars than anything else.
[quote][p][bold]Dr S Brule[/bold] wrote: If you are worried about your journey being disrupted then I suggest you don't drive through the new forest anyway. It's one day and the forest should be there for everyone. As for "contributing nothing to maintenance" - how much damage do cyclists inflict on the roads? How would you go about implementing a contribution? Should there be toll booths constructed over cattle grids? Mrs Sibley claims that they will put residents lives in danger - where is her safety assessment? on what basis does she justify the expectation of "carnage".[/p][/quote]It's also worth noting not all the cyclist's leave at once, they are let out in small group's in the morning, plus they are not all doing the same route. "“How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads? I think the amount of cars on the roads causes more of a problem than the cyclists here, As for putting lives in danger i would have thought the statistics would show more injury's to people or wildlife in the forest are cause by cars than anything else. siimot
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12:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13

iFamily says...

As a New Forest resident and keen cyclist I am disappointed by some of the words published here to describe cyclists. What gives Mrs Sibley the right to brand me a "Lycra-clad lemming"?

Also, it is just inaccurate and without basis to publish stuff like this: "When similar events have taken place, cyclists ride four or five abreast on our narrow New Forest roads, often aggressively and with little or no concern for other road users."

If you cycle, and especially around the forest; you will not survive if you do not pay attention to other road users and the livestock. This is a fact. Even if Mr Bradley Wiggins were to visit he would not be able to top the speeds that some people drive around here. He is also not propelling a 2 tonne vehicle.

I have done several New Forest cycling events and in my experience the events are well organised and the riders are on the whole good natured and considerate. You get good and bad with any group; be it cyclist, dog walker, horse rider and motorist.

This is an incredibly naive statement: “How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads?"
1, For a start, the cyclists are not in one huge peloton. They are set off in small groups.
2, I believe that the 4000 riders is the amount entered over 2 days, not on one day as suggested.
3, The emergency vehicles all have sirens and flashing lights. Cyclists have great respect for both services, as they know they might have use of them one day!

I can only think of one reason for this "news story" to be published. To try and scrape some cheap publicity for both the paper and also Mrs Sibley's commercial activities. This is not a good policy in my opinion. The New Forest is a National Park. We are very fortunate to live here, but we do not own it. There are only a handful of large cycling events held each year. I have never heard of any resident or livestock being harmed by any previous event nor any damage done to any roads. Also the local businesses including hotels, b&bs, pubs and restaurants will all benefit from these cyclists. Where is the harm in that?
As a New Forest resident and keen cyclist I am disappointed by some of the words published here to describe cyclists. What gives Mrs Sibley the right to brand me a "Lycra-clad lemming"? Also, it is just inaccurate and without basis to publish stuff like this: "When similar events have taken place, cyclists ride four or five abreast on our narrow New Forest roads, often aggressively and with little or no concern for other road users." If you cycle, and especially around the forest; you will not survive if you do not pay attention to other road users and the livestock. This is a fact. Even if Mr Bradley Wiggins were to visit he would not be able to top the speeds that some people drive around here. He is also not propelling a 2 tonne vehicle. I have done several New Forest cycling events and in my experience the events are well organised and the riders are on the whole good natured and considerate. You get good and bad with any group; be it cyclist, dog walker, horse rider and motorist. This is an incredibly naive statement: “How, for example, would an ambulance or fire engine reach a New Forest village in time if there were 4,000 cyclists blocking our roads?" 1, For a start, the cyclists are not in one huge peloton. They are set off in small groups. 2, I believe that the 4000 riders is the amount entered over 2 days, not on one day as suggested. 3, The emergency vehicles all have sirens and flashing lights. Cyclists have great respect for both services, as they know they might have use of them one day! I can only think of one reason for this "news story" to be published. To try and scrape some cheap publicity for both the paper and also Mrs Sibley's commercial activities. This is not a good policy in my opinion. The New Forest is a National Park. We are very fortunate to live here, but we do not own it. There are only a handful of large cycling events held each year. I have never heard of any resident or livestock being harmed by any previous event nor any damage done to any roads. Also the local businesses including hotels, b&bs, pubs and restaurants will all benefit from these cyclists. Where is the harm in that? iFamily
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1:41pm Thu 28 Feb 13

iNew Forest says...

There are many differences of opinions in the New Forest and I think if everyone learnt to accept each others interests then it would be a nicer place.

Every year the New Forest Show brings ninety five thousand visitors in vehicles. Other fantastic events bring lots of traffic too. Most days during rush hour, Lyndhurst is overwhelmed with commuting vehicles. The same going for Ringwood and many other main road routes in and out of the forest. is this called 'carnage' or is this just 'traffic'?

These events are what keep the forest alive. If there were no visitors, tourism would not exist and it would be very hard to justify its' existence as a National Park.

Cyclists cause minimal or no damage to roads. The livestock is pretty safe. They give off no emmissions.
Many cyclists at the event probably own a car, a dog, a pair of running shoes, walking boots any often a horse. All of these parties have come under fire at some point over time for using the New Forest as a recreational place to enjoy.

Many of these cyclists will be New Forest residents themselves so why would they want to create 'carnage' here?

No cyclist wants to cause an obstruction or create havoc. They simply want a bit of self achievement whilst enjoying this wonderful part of the country. Isn't that why we are all here? Why begrudge someone a few hours of doing what they love? That's all it is, a few hours on both days.

Many of the cyclists at this event will be staying in B&B's and hotels in the New Forest, and eating in cafes, pubs and restaurants. Surely any New Forest resident would see that as a good thing as we all support local businesses don't we?

I love the New Forest just the way it is. Why create a war?
There are many differences of opinions in the New Forest and I think if everyone learnt to accept each others interests then it would be a nicer place. Every year the New Forest Show brings ninety five thousand visitors in vehicles. Other fantastic events bring lots of traffic too. Most days during rush hour, Lyndhurst is overwhelmed with commuting vehicles. The same going for Ringwood and many other main road routes in and out of the forest. is this called 'carnage' or is this just 'traffic'? These events are what keep the forest alive. If there were no visitors, tourism would not exist and it would be very hard to justify its' existence as a National Park. Cyclists cause minimal or no damage to roads. The livestock is pretty safe. They give off no emmissions. Many cyclists at the event probably own a car, a dog, a pair of running shoes, walking boots any often a horse. All of these parties have come under fire at some point over time for using the New Forest as a recreational place to enjoy. Many of these cyclists will be New Forest residents themselves so why would they want to create 'carnage' here? No cyclist wants to cause an obstruction or create havoc. They simply want a bit of self achievement whilst enjoying this wonderful part of the country. Isn't that why we are all here? Why begrudge someone a few hours of doing what they love? That's all it is, a few hours on both days. Many of the cyclists at this event will be staying in B&B's and hotels in the New Forest, and eating in cafes, pubs and restaurants. Surely any New Forest resident would see that as a good thing as we all support local businesses don't we? I love the New Forest just the way it is. Why create a war? iNew Forest
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3:08pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Forest Man says...

LETS RIDE! : )
LETS RIDE! : ) Forest Man
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3:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13

UKD003 says...

In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups.

I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else.

4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest.
In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups. I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else. 4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest. UKD003
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3:27pm Thu 28 Feb 13

AndrewM says...

The clue might be in the name - it's a national P A R K !!!!! It's designated a place of leisure for all of us - so why do so many of its residents insist on moaning about people who use it as such?
The clue might be in the name - it's a national P A R K !!!!! It's designated a place of leisure for all of us - so why do so many of its residents insist on moaning about people who use it as such? AndrewM
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3:34pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Grampie says...

UKD003 wrote:
In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups.

I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else.

4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest.
Unlike car drivers who are always polite and considerate and never travel in groups!!
[quote][p][bold]UKD003[/bold] wrote: In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups. I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else. 4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest.[/p][/quote]Unlike car drivers who are always polite and considerate and never travel in groups!! Grampie
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3:40pm Thu 28 Feb 13

iFamily says...

UKD003 wrote:
In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups.

I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else.

4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest.
I have never had an incident with a cyclist whilst driving in the forest. Maybe I have been lucky? Or is this a reflection of your driving style?

One could argue that from another perspective, a lot of motorists think the would revolves around them. This doesn't make arrogance more acceptable. I haven't witnessed any unacceptable behaviour from cyclists in the New Forest. I do sometimes spot a little bit of litter from gel packs etc. I have seen cyclists jump red lights in cities, but not in the New Forest. That is my experience.

I have been shouted by motorists in the New Forest while cycling. Some do it for a bit of sick fun, some to intimidate, some because I had the audacity to be on the same road as them. I have also been driven at while negotiating the pinch points.

To put the numbers that are causing alarm into some sort of context. There will be 2000 cyclists on both days.

2000 cyclists the fit easily within Brockenhurst College car park; almost as many students go to Ringwood School for example every working day. The forest somehow keeps revolving. The New Forest is a big place after all.

Live and let live.
[quote][p][bold]UKD003[/bold] wrote: In my opinion, in general, cyclists are very arrogrant and think the whole world should revolve around them. They really would like us all to stay off the roads , so they can ride in groups. I have witness many times instances of behaviours that are unacceptable. But when anybody challenges them, they become the victim and point to everybody else. 4000 togehter will just be a huge nightmare , especially in the New Forrest.[/p][/quote]I have never had an incident with a cyclist whilst driving in the forest. Maybe I have been lucky? Or is this a reflection of your driving style? One could argue that from another perspective, a lot of motorists think the would revolves around them. This doesn't make arrogance more acceptable. I haven't witnessed any unacceptable behaviour from cyclists in the New Forest. I do sometimes spot a little bit of litter from gel packs etc. I have seen cyclists jump red lights in cities, but not in the New Forest. That is my experience. I have been shouted by motorists in the New Forest while cycling. Some do it for a bit of sick fun, some to intimidate, some because I had the audacity to be on the same road as them. I have also been driven at while negotiating the pinch points. To put the numbers that are causing alarm into some sort of context. There will be 2000 cyclists on both days. 2000 cyclists the fit easily within Brockenhurst College car park; almost as many students go to Ringwood School for example every working day. The forest somehow keeps revolving. The New Forest is a big place after all. Live and let live. iFamily
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7:43pm Thu 28 Feb 13

tim m says...

What a remarkable rant. I wonder how long she worked on the "Lycra-clad lemmings" gem? In my experience, attacks like Mrs. Sibley's have only achieved two things: provoke the local anti-bike vigilantes into action, and make cyclists jumpy and tentative - nice job, Mrs. S.
Two days out of 365... live with it, take a different route, go into Romsey until the cyclists leave. Support a local business, hand out drinks at a rest stop. I for one will be wearing my brightest yellow jersey, my tightest "lycra" (have you ever noticed that when non-cyclists criticise cyclists, there's always a lycra or spandex element to it?), and riding as fast as I can, knowing that I'm at least contributing a little to spoiling this silly, selfish woman's day.
What a remarkable rant. I wonder how long she worked on the "Lycra-clad lemmings" gem? In my experience, attacks like Mrs. Sibley's have only achieved two things: provoke the local anti-bike vigilantes into action, and make cyclists jumpy and tentative - nice job, Mrs. S. Two days out of 365... live with it, take a different route, go into Romsey until the cyclists leave. Support a local business, hand out drinks at a rest stop. I for one will be wearing my brightest yellow jersey, my tightest "lycra" (have you ever noticed that when non-cyclists criticise cyclists, there's always a lycra or spandex element to it?), and riding as fast as I can, knowing that I'm at least contributing a little to spoiling this silly, selfish woman's day. tim m
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9:02pm Thu 28 Feb 13

UKD003 says...

this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims.
this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims. UKD003
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10:22am Fri 1 Mar 13

Grampie says...

UKD003 wrote:
this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims.
Thank goodness we get no motorists who are arrogant, rude, drive dangerously or cause issues. Not a bike rider myself, but this event is only for a couple of days and people will be keeping fit, enjoying themselves and bringing money to the area.

Unlike motorists who bring pollution and noise.

I have never heard of a cyclist killing a horse in the New Forest, but there are many horses killed by cars.

I do find cyclists in towns sometimes annoying, but wouldn't stop me from marrying one.
[quote][p][bold]UKD003[/bold] wrote: this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims.[/p][/quote]Thank goodness we get no motorists who are arrogant, rude, drive dangerously or cause issues. Not a bike rider myself, but this event is only for a couple of days and people will be keeping fit, enjoying themselves and bringing money to the area. Unlike motorists who bring pollution and noise. I have never heard of a cyclist killing a horse in the New Forest, but there are many horses killed by cars. I do find cyclists in towns sometimes annoying, but wouldn't stop me from marrying one. Grampie
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3:52pm Fri 1 Mar 13

gingin says...

What a bigoted view Mrs S has. The New forest is a National Park - hence for all to enjoy. If this woman doesn't want to witness cyclists enjoying their event then a suggestion is to go out for the day instead of being a total misery.
What a bigoted view Mrs S has. The New forest is a National Park - hence for all to enjoy. If this woman doesn't want to witness cyclists enjoying their event then a suggestion is to go out for the day instead of being a total misery. gingin
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6:35pm Sat 2 Mar 13

tim m says...

UKD003 wrote:
this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims.
Really? I'm going to do no such thing. I,like everyone else, am going to ride according to the highway code, enjoy my 60 miles, soak in the incomparable scenery, and then take my money into the shops and restaurants in the forest and spend it happily. Then I'll go home and tell my friends what a good time I had, and maybe they'll spend their money here next year, which, I believe, is exactly what Mrs. Sibley is trying to achieve with her website.
[quote][p][bold]UKD003[/bold] wrote: this dude tim m is the good example of the arrogance of many of these bike riders. From what he wrote, sounds like he will be going out of his way to start trouble, which is the exact point of this. The behaviours of many of them cause issues, but then they whine later they are victims.[/p][/quote]Really? I'm going to do no such thing. I,like everyone else, am going to ride according to the highway code, enjoy my 60 miles, soak in the incomparable scenery, and then take my money into the shops and restaurants in the forest and spend it happily. Then I'll go home and tell my friends what a good time I had, and maybe they'll spend their money here next year, which, I believe, is exactly what Mrs. Sibley is trying to achieve with her website. tim m
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7:23pm Sun 3 Mar 13

P Holgate says...

The thing that really surprises me is that Anita Sibley can voice such a miss guided and rude opinion in the name of her business Vizzit New Forest.

It's a business directory with listings for businesses that advertise amongst other things that they welcome cyclists.

To be openly rude about 4000 people who will spend money locally over the 2 days and if they feel welcome would perhaps come back again and again smacks as completely stupid in every way!
The thing that really surprises me is that Anita Sibley can voice such a miss guided and rude opinion in the name of her business Vizzit New Forest. It's a business directory with listings for businesses that advertise amongst other things that they welcome cyclists. To be openly rude about 4000 people who will spend money locally over the 2 days and if they feel welcome would perhaps come back again and again smacks as completely stupid in every way! P Holgate
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11:10pm Mon 4 Mar 13

aldonreaper says...

maybe we should try to live together in peace as theres enough annomosity caused by the government today, if the organisers put up signs warning us drivers in advance we can choose to go to the beach for the day and hey presto problem solved, were all arogant at times cyclists and motorist so stop think and give each other a thumbs up instead of two fingers
maybe we should try to live together in peace as theres enough annomosity caused by the government today, if the organisers put up signs warning us drivers in advance we can choose to go to the beach for the day and hey presto problem solved, were all arogant at times cyclists and motorist so stop think and give each other a thumbs up instead of two fingers aldonreaper
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2:45pm Tue 5 Mar 13

Pitstop says...

I am a NF resident, a walker, runner, cyclist and driver and agree that it is there to be enjoyed RESPONSIBLY by all. HOWEVER, the organisers and the participants have a responsibility to ensure that the Park is left as it is found, i.e. WITHOUT dozens and dozens of empty gel packets, punctured inner tubes, drinks bottles and canisters strewn on the roads and in the hedgerows. This is not being adhered to and it is that I strongly object to.
I am a NF resident, a walker, runner, cyclist and driver and agree that it is there to be enjoyed RESPONSIBLY by all. HOWEVER, the organisers and the participants have a responsibility to ensure that the Park is left as it is found, i.e. WITHOUT dozens and dozens of empty gel packets, punctured inner tubes, drinks bottles and canisters strewn on the roads and in the hedgerows. This is not being adhered to and it is that I strongly object to. Pitstop
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12:18pm Wed 6 Mar 13

P Holgate says...

aldonreaper wrote:
maybe we should try to live together in peace as theres enough annomosity caused by the government today, if the organisers put up signs warning us drivers in advance we can choose to go to the beach for the day and hey presto problem solved, were all arogant at times cyclists and motorist so stop think and give each other a thumbs up instead of two fingers
I completely agree . There is no excuse for any one to drop their litter.

The Wiggle ride is incredibly well run. The signs go up before hand, the route is mainly rural avoiding the towns. Riders are reminded of the need to ride with due care to those around them.
It's a ride that most of the people do either to raise money for charity or just for the complete joy of cycling in the New Forest following a clearly marked route , something that would be difficult if they didn't know the area.

As an event it raises the awareness of the facilities the New Forest offers and shows parts of it an occasional visiting cyclist may not get to find.

The event and the cyclists deserve respect and support not abuse.
[quote][p][bold]aldonreaper[/bold] wrote: maybe we should try to live together in peace as theres enough annomosity caused by the government today, if the organisers put up signs warning us drivers in advance we can choose to go to the beach for the day and hey presto problem solved, were all arogant at times cyclists and motorist so stop think and give each other a thumbs up instead of two fingers[/p][/quote]I completely agree . There is no excuse for any one to drop their litter. The Wiggle ride is incredibly well run. The signs go up before hand, the route is mainly rural avoiding the towns. Riders are reminded of the need to ride with due care to those around them. It's a ride that most of the people do either to raise money for charity or just for the complete joy of cycling in the New Forest following a clearly marked route , something that would be difficult if they didn't know the area. As an event it raises the awareness of the facilities the New Forest offers and shows parts of it an occasional visiting cyclist may not get to find. The event and the cyclists deserve respect and support not abuse. P Holgate
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1:26pm Tue 26 Mar 13

LauraApp says...

I have ridden every single one of the Wiggle New Forest sportives over the last 3 or so years, and I will do both days this spring. Wiggle are excellent at running these events in my opinion. Myself and may partner really enjoy the events, always stay locally and so spend money at B&Bs and restaurants etc. This article is inaccurate and scare-mongering and has upset a lot of people who would like to come and spend some time in this natural beauty spot. I am glad to hear that the author has now apologised to UK cycling events for her inaccuracies.

I agree whole-heartedly that cyclists should ride responsibly and not across the whole road, they should follow the traffic laws and not drop litter. I also agree that Wiggle should work hard to make sure people ride responsibly, but they are not the police. Everyone else who uses the forest and its roads should be responsible for their conduct too. I don't think cyclists are any worse than any other group. We also do not pollute like cars, and do not damage the road surface. Road maintenance is part of everyone's taxes, not only those who drive cars, so we are all paying to make sure the roads are in a good state. Believe me, you are MUCH more aware of potholes on a bike!!

This event is for 2 days in the spring, and 2 days in the autumn, for a few hours in the morning. Maybe UK cycling events can run a clean-up van after the event to clean up gel packets etc if they don't already. Otherwise, I really don't see what the problem is. Why does someone in a car have more of a right to use the road than someone on a bike?
I have ridden every single one of the Wiggle New Forest sportives over the last 3 or so years, and I will do both days this spring. Wiggle are excellent at running these events in my opinion. Myself and may partner really enjoy the events, always stay locally and so spend money at B&Bs and restaurants etc. This article is inaccurate and scare-mongering and has upset a lot of people who would like to come and spend some time in this natural beauty spot. I am glad to hear that the author has now apologised to UK cycling events for her inaccuracies. I agree whole-heartedly that cyclists should ride responsibly and not across the whole road, they should follow the traffic laws and not drop litter. I also agree that Wiggle should work hard to make sure people ride responsibly, but they are not the police. Everyone else who uses the forest and its roads should be responsible for their conduct too. I don't think cyclists are any worse than any other group. We also do not pollute like cars, and do not damage the road surface. Road maintenance is part of everyone's taxes, not only those who drive cars, so we are all paying to make sure the roads are in a good state. Believe me, you are MUCH more aware of potholes on a bike!! This event is for 2 days in the spring, and 2 days in the autumn, for a few hours in the morning. Maybe UK cycling events can run a clean-up van after the event to clean up gel packets etc if they don't already. Otherwise, I really don't see what the problem is. Why does someone in a car have more of a right to use the road than someone on a bike? LauraApp
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