'Scoping application' for Sainsbury's plan

DEVELOPERS hoping to build a new supermarket off Salisbury’s Southampton Road have submitted a scoping application to Wiltshire Council ahead of an expected second planning application.

A scoping application is a request for an opinion on what information should be included in an environmental statement submitted with plans, and the council will now consult with statutory consultees such as the Environment Agency and English Heritage before responding.

A council spokesman said: “It is not something that is open to consultation with the public. It is something they have to send us so that we can consult with the statutory consultees and get back to them to tell them what impact statements they will have to do.”

The multi-million pound Salisbury Gateway project is looking to build a Sainsbury’s store opposite the existing Tesco supermarket as well as introducing a 12-acre wildlife and wetlands area and making changes to the road, including modifying the College and Bourne Way roundabouts at either end of Southampton Road.

An initial planning application for the project was submitted in June 2012 but withdrawn following public consultation.

Another round of public consultation was held in July last year, and developer Salisbury Site LLP said a new application would aim to address issues raised by residents.

Concerns were raised about the store being so close to existing stores rather than on the Fugglestone Red side of Salisbury where there is no existing store and where major development is planned. People are also concerned about the flood risk in the area, which the developers say will be adequately alleviated by the natural wetland area and by tanks being put in under the store to ensure heavy rain is gradually fed into the nearby River Avon.

Sainsbury’s said they remain “one hundred per cent committed” to keeping their existing city centre store open, and to be a part of the proposed rejuvenation of the Maltings area.

The council spokesman said a new application is not expected to be submitted in the near future.

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1:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

nickwhelan says...

Utter madness. At busy traffic times, Southampton Road is already, as everyone knows, prone to gridlock stretching out beyond Alderbury and in as far as the Exeter Street roundabout. Without dualling the A36 through there, how can planners possibly hope to avoid further traffic nightmares by positioning another supermarket east of Salisbury? And what about the proposed redevelopment of The Maltings - do Sainsburys really expect to be able to maintain two stores alongside Tesco's two stores, Waitrose, Lidl, M&S etc.? Come on. What Salisbury needs is a decent plan for the Maltings, reinvestment in the town centre, decent, reduced-cost parking and if, if another supermarket, then it needs to be sited west of the town.
Utter madness. At busy traffic times, Southampton Road is already, as everyone knows, prone to gridlock stretching out beyond Alderbury and in as far as the Exeter Street roundabout. Without dualling the A36 through there, how can planners possibly hope to avoid further traffic nightmares by positioning another supermarket east of Salisbury? And what about the proposed redevelopment of The Maltings - do Sainsburys really expect to be able to maintain two stores alongside Tesco's two stores, Waitrose, Lidl, M&S etc.? Come on. What Salisbury needs is a decent plan for the Maltings, reinvestment in the town centre, decent, reduced-cost parking and if, if another supermarket, then it needs to be sited west of the town. nickwhelan

5:13pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Grampie says...

What is new about forming a 12-acre wildlife and wetlands area . The area is is a meadow, which is a wildlife and wetlands area.

What a stupid idea this project is. I doubt if anybody wants it there, so how have they addressed the issues that it is not wanted?

I bet Wiltshire Council will cave in eventually, because they cannot afford to fight the proposals madfe by such a big company.

Sainsburys, pleaselisten to local people and build it where people want it, in other words the other side of the city
What is new about forming a 12-acre wildlife and wetlands area . The area is is a meadow, which is a wildlife and wetlands area. What a stupid idea this project is. I doubt if anybody wants it there, so how have they addressed the issues that it is not wanted? I bet Wiltshire Council will cave in eventually, because they cannot afford to fight the proposals madfe by such a big company. Sainsburys, pleaselisten to local people and build it where people want it, in other words the other side of the city Grampie

7:26pm Tue 31 Dec 13

doppelganger says...

I cannot believe that they are trying to keep pushing to develop this site! With the A36 problems as they are, surely if they built the supermarket on the other side of town (where all the new housing is and the planned new housing is going to be built) then the traffic would reduce on the Southampton Road ! Also, this is adjacent to a flood plain- the developers plan includes being able to shut off parts of the car park when it floods!- WHY OH WHY would anyone want to build there???!!! It also does nothing whatsoever to enhance to this entrance in to Salisbury!
I cannot believe that they are trying to keep pushing to develop this site! With the A36 problems as they are, surely if they built the supermarket on the other side of town (where all the new housing is and the planned new housing is going to be built) then the traffic would reduce on the Southampton Road ! Also, this is adjacent to a flood plain- the developers plan includes being able to shut off parts of the car park when it floods!- WHY OH WHY would anyone want to build there???!!! It also does nothing whatsoever to enhance to this entrance in to Salisbury! doppelganger

9:39am Wed 1 Jan 14

journalist1 says...

I would like to know why Sainsbury's appear to have ruled out building a supermarket on the other side of town, where one is actually needed. Have they explained that?
I would like to know why Sainsbury's appear to have ruled out building a supermarket on the other side of town, where one is actually needed. Have they explained that? journalist1

9:47am Wed 1 Jan 14

Champers says...

The obvious site is the currently proposed retail park area opposite Wood BMW on the London Road. At least, all the new homes going in at Hampton Park 2 wouldn't then add to all the existing traffic crossing Salisbury to get to Tescos etc.
The obvious site is the currently proposed retail park area opposite Wood BMW on the London Road. At least, all the new homes going in at Hampton Park 2 wouldn't then add to all the existing traffic crossing Salisbury to get to Tescos etc. Champers

2:17pm Wed 1 Jan 14

doppelganger says...

In answer to Journalist1, when the developers were asked the question at one of their "presentations" why it was not being built where it was needed on the other side of town, they refused to answer the question and said they would only discuss the proposed site! I wonder why??!!!
In answer to Journalist1, when the developers were asked the question at one of their "presentations" why it was not being built where it was needed on the other side of town, they refused to answer the question and said they would only discuss the proposed site! I wonder why??!!! doppelganger

4:25am Thu 2 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

doppelganger wrote:
In answer to Journalist1, when the developers were asked the question at one of their "presentations" why it was not being built where it was needed on the other side of town, they refused to answer the question and said they would only discuss the proposed site! I wonder why??!!!
It was very reminiscent of 9 jobs when asked about the cost of the new police station, custody suite etc... a blank expression as if someone had asked him to explain the theory of relativity. We're still waiting for the figures.
[quote][p][bold]doppelganger[/bold] wrote: In answer to Journalist1, when the developers were asked the question at one of their "presentations" why it was not being built where it was needed on the other side of town, they refused to answer the question and said they would only discuss the proposed site! I wonder why??!!![/p][/quote]It was very reminiscent of 9 jobs when asked about the cost of the new police station, custody suite etc... a blank expression as if someone had asked him to explain the theory of relativity. We're still waiting for the figures. karlmarx

10:00am Thu 2 Jan 14

UKD003 says...

Let's not forget that competition is good. If Tesco is the only large store in town, service and costs will continue to be rubbish. Too often I see the product we get is sub par , due a store to being the only choice in town.

As to the traffic, yes it is a problem in the location. But to keep it real, doesn't mean shoppers traveling to the area will double. If as example Tesco gets 100 customers a day, by adding a Sainsbury next door, it doesn't mean there they also will get another 100 different/new customers a day, but means Tesco shoppers will change and shop at Sainsbury. Yes there will be an increase but I suspect only by 10-20%. .

Competiton is good. Otherwise, look at M&S now , lazy store managment and high prices.
Let's not forget that competition is good. If Tesco is the only large store in town, service and costs will continue to be rubbish. Too often I see the product we get is sub par , due a store to being the only choice in town. As to the traffic, yes it is a problem in the location. But to keep it real, doesn't mean shoppers traveling to the area will double. If as example Tesco gets 100 customers a day, by adding a Sainsbury next door, it doesn't mean there they also will get another 100 different/new customers a day, but means Tesco shoppers will change and shop at Sainsbury. Yes there will be an increase but I suspect only by 10-20%. . Competiton is good. Otherwise, look at M&S now , lazy store managment and high prices. UKD003

11:46am Thu 2 Jan 14

journalist1 says...

Re UKD003's comment: Tesco is not the only large store, what about Waitrose? There's also a Sainsbury's already in town, and a Lidl off Southampton Road. How many more superstores do we need?
But the environmental arguments - not just the traffic, but the loss of watermeadow/flood plain and the destruction of what is already a perfectly good wildlife habitat which is home to the rare Cetti's warbler - are what really count, and nobody much seems to talk about that.
Re UKD003's comment: Tesco is not the only large store, what about Waitrose? There's also a Sainsbury's already in town, and a Lidl off Southampton Road. How many more superstores do we need? But the environmental arguments - not just the traffic, but the loss of watermeadow/flood plain and the destruction of what is already a perfectly good wildlife habitat which is home to the rare Cetti's warbler - are what really count, and nobody much seems to talk about that. journalist1

1:36pm Thu 2 Jan 14

drblade1889 says...

If any company submits a proposal to the Council to build anything extra on Southampton Road, there should be an immediate..NO! The traffic situation is already ridiculous, and why the road wasn't widened to prevent a one way system when the development of the retail outlets took place, is beyond me!

The other side of Salisbury is prime for a Supermarket, other than the expensive Waitrose, all other shoppers have to venture into either Central Car Park with it's extortionate parking charges or go right round the other side of the City to Tesco! I have no idea why anyone looking to build a Supermarket in Salisbury cannot see this...it's clear Fugglestone Red area is prime for this! Why didn't they get involved with the development of the old MOD site in Wilton?
If any company submits a proposal to the Council to build anything extra on Southampton Road, there should be an immediate..NO! The traffic situation is already ridiculous, and why the road wasn't widened to prevent a one way system when the development of the retail outlets took place, is beyond me! The other side of Salisbury is prime for a Supermarket, other than the expensive Waitrose, all other shoppers have to venture into either Central Car Park with it's extortionate parking charges or go right round the other side of the City to Tesco! I have no idea why anyone looking to build a Supermarket in Salisbury cannot see this...it's clear Fugglestone Red area is prime for this! Why didn't they get involved with the development of the old MOD site in Wilton? drblade1889

2:16pm Thu 2 Jan 14

doppelganger says...

UKD003 wrote:
Let's not forget that competition is good. If Tesco is the only large store in town, service and costs will continue to be rubbish. Too often I see the product we get is sub par , due a store to being the only choice in town.

As to the traffic, yes it is a problem in the location. But to keep it real, doesn't mean shoppers traveling to the area will double. If as example Tesco gets 100 customers a day, by adding a Sainsbury next door, it doesn't mean there they also will get another 100 different/new customers a day, but means Tesco shoppers will change and shop at Sainsbury. Yes there will be an increase but I suspect only by 10-20%. .

Competiton is good. Otherwise, look at M&S now , lazy store managment and high prices.
In response to the above, dont forget almost ALL the new housing planned for Salisbury (several thousand new homes) is the other side of Salisbury! So there WILL be a very significant increase in traffic! The issue of building by /on the flood plain is one thing (that water has to go somewhere, as we all know!!!) and the Southampton Road is a nightmare, as most of uscan testify. I personally dont object to competition but it just seems completely illogical to build it on this side of town with the traffic issues that exist, encouraging people in to their cars as they realistically cannot get to Tesco without a car (I wonder how many would cycle/walk/bus to it to do the family shop?!) and then there are the flooding/environment
al issues. Sorry, this shop should be the other side of town where its actually needed!!!!
[quote][p][bold]UKD003[/bold] wrote: Let's not forget that competition is good. If Tesco is the only large store in town, service and costs will continue to be rubbish. Too often I see the product we get is sub par , due a store to being the only choice in town. As to the traffic, yes it is a problem in the location. But to keep it real, doesn't mean shoppers traveling to the area will double. If as example Tesco gets 100 customers a day, by adding a Sainsbury next door, it doesn't mean there they also will get another 100 different/new customers a day, but means Tesco shoppers will change and shop at Sainsbury. Yes there will be an increase but I suspect only by 10-20%. . Competiton is good. Otherwise, look at M&S now , lazy store managment and high prices.[/p][/quote]In response to the above, dont forget almost ALL the new housing planned for Salisbury (several thousand new homes) is the other side of Salisbury! So there WILL be a very significant increase in traffic! The issue of building by /on the flood plain is one thing (that water has to go somewhere, as we all know!!!) and the Southampton Road is a nightmare, as most of uscan testify. I personally dont object to competition but it just seems completely illogical to build it on this side of town with the traffic issues that exist, encouraging people in to their cars as they realistically cannot get to Tesco without a car (I wonder how many would cycle/walk/bus to it to do the family shop?!) and then there are the flooding/environment al issues. Sorry, this shop should be the other side of town where its actually needed!!!! doppelganger

3:12pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nesspah says...

This planning application will be much too important for the local boys so it will go to the Wiltshire Strategic Committee. Yes ??

There seem to be 23 councillors on that gravy train with 7 of them from South Wilts.

Only two seem to represent Salisbury areas so you're right Grampie, the council will cave in when faced with much better experts than they can muster.
This planning application will be much too important for the local boys so it will go to the Wiltshire Strategic Committee. Yes ?? There seem to be 23 councillors on that gravy train with 7 of them from South Wilts. Only two seem to represent Salisbury areas so you're right Grampie, the council will cave in when faced with much better experts than they can muster. nesspah

10:39pm Thu 2 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

Trunk road meaning:
A trunk road, trunk highway or strategic road is a major road, usually connecting two or more cities, ports, airports and other places, which is the recommended route for long distance and freight traffic. Many trunk roads have segregated lanes in a dual carriageway or are of motorway standard.

A36 - A major trunk road between the south coast and bristol and the Midlands

So, the latest proposals far from reducing local traffic from clogging up this major through route, will in fact make the situation worse.

A new supermarket complex and another college on the major trunk route through Salisbury.

How does the song go?
There may be trouble ahead, but while there's etc...
Trunk road meaning: A trunk road, trunk highway or strategic road is a major road, usually connecting two or more cities, ports, airports and other places, which is the recommended route for long distance and freight traffic. Many trunk roads have segregated lanes in a dual carriageway or are of motorway standard. A36 - A major trunk road between the south coast and bristol and the Midlands So, the latest proposals far from reducing local traffic from clogging up this major through route, will in fact make the situation worse. A new supermarket complex and another college on the major trunk route through Salisbury. How does the song go? There may be trouble ahead, but while there's etc... karlmarx

12:00pm Fri 3 Jan 14

blackstone says...

ALDI are you watching this????

Come on ,,its time you had a place to the west of Salisbury--you cant lose
ALDI are you watching this???? Come on ,,its time you had a place to the west of Salisbury--you cant lose blackstone

4:21pm Fri 3 Jan 14

doppelganger says...

Has anyone seen the flooding on the proposed Sainsbury field this afternoon!!!!!!!!! It is just ridiculous to even consider building on it!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone seen the flooding on the proposed Sainsbury field this afternoon!!!!!!!!! It is just ridiculous to even consider building on it!!!!!!!!!!! doppelganger

12:34am Sat 4 Jan 14

Grampie says...

doppelganger wrote:
Has anyone seen the flooding on the proposed Sainsbury field this afternoon!!!!!!!!! It is just ridiculous to even consider building on it!!!!!!!!!!!
"the developers say will be adequately alleviated by the natural wetland area and by tanks being put in under the store to ensure heavy rain is gradually fed into the nearby River Avon."

I wonder how big these tanks are going to be. There is avheck of a lot of water in those meadows when it floods.

Mr Clewer is very quiet on this as is Mr Glen. Do they know something we don't?
[quote][p][bold]doppelganger[/bold] wrote: Has anyone seen the flooding on the proposed Sainsbury field this afternoon!!!!!!!!! It is just ridiculous to even consider building on it!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]"the developers say will be adequately alleviated by the natural wetland area and by tanks being put in under the store to ensure heavy rain is gradually fed into the nearby River Avon." I wonder how big these tanks are going to be. There is avheck of a lot of water in those meadows when it floods. Mr Clewer is very quiet on this as is Mr Glen. Do they know something we don't? Grampie

1:20pm Sat 4 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

Let's hope the developers read the news then...

Government cuts will hit flood risk work, says Environment Agency head
Paul Leinster says mapping, modelling and flood warning work will be impacted as magazine suggests 550 staff may lose jobs.

Flood risk management will be hit by government budget cuts, the head of the Environment Agency has warned as the latest bout of extreme weather batters the UK.

Paul Leinster, the EA's chief executive, told an environmental policy magazine that government cuts will impact on how the organisation deals with flooding.

About 550 staff from the floods team faced losing their jobs, according to the Ends Report. Leinster told the magazine: "Flood risk maintenance will be impacted. All of our work on mapping and modelling and new developments in things like flood warning will also have to be resized. And we're looking at a proportionate reduction in the number of people in flood risk management."

Alternatively Wellington boots for sale in the entrance to the new store could be a winner instead.
Let's hope the developers read the news then... Government cuts will hit flood risk work, says Environment Agency head Paul Leinster says mapping, modelling and flood warning work will be impacted as magazine suggests 550 staff may lose jobs. Flood risk management will be hit by government budget cuts, the head of the Environment Agency has warned as the latest bout of extreme weather batters the UK. Paul Leinster, the EA's chief executive, told an environmental policy magazine that government cuts will impact on how the organisation deals with flooding. About 550 staff from the floods team faced losing their jobs, according to the Ends Report. Leinster told the magazine: "Flood risk maintenance will be [further] impacted. All of our work on mapping and modelling and new developments in things like flood warning will also have to be resized. And we're looking at a proportionate reduction in the number of people in flood risk management." Alternatively Wellington boots for sale in the entrance to the new store could be a winner instead. karlmarx

6:57pm Sat 4 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

"the developers say will be adequately alleviated by the natural wetland area and by tanks being put in under the store to ensure heavy rain is gradually fed into the nearby River Avon."

Isn't that why rivers flood in the first place? By heavy rainfall falling onto natural wetland areas and making it's way into the rivers? Hence the term 'flood plains'
To defy nature will require some spectacularly huge 'tanks'
"the developers say will be adequately alleviated by the natural wetland area and by tanks being put in under the store to ensure heavy rain is gradually fed into the nearby River Avon." Isn't that why rivers flood in the first place? By heavy rainfall falling onto natural wetland areas and making it's way into the rivers? Hence the term 'flood plains' To defy nature will require some spectacularly huge 'tanks' karlmarx

10:18am Sun 5 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

Latest Tory propaganda blurb

Scameron to protect state pension

Lets take a look...

State Pension in UK- approx £5500 pa.
State pension in Germany- approx £20000 pa.
State pension in Sweden- approx £25000 pa.
State pension in virtually every other country in Europe- MUCH more than in UK.
WHY?
We are one of the richest countries but we, the workers are paid a pittance in retirement.
We're all in this together, we are told- haha- now that's a joke!

Over to you, again!

Cue a plethora of negative voting to try alter reality ;-)
Latest Tory propaganda blurb Scameron to protect state pension Lets take a look... State Pension in UK- approx £5500 pa. State pension in Germany- approx £20000 pa. State pension in Sweden- approx £25000 pa. State pension in virtually every other country in Europe- MUCH more than in UK. WHY? We are one of the richest countries but we, the workers are paid a pittance in retirement. We're all in this together, we are told- haha- now that's a joke! Over to you, again! Cue a plethora of negative voting to try alter reality ;-) karlmarx

7:43pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Grampie says...

I think it is a thumbs down to the pitiful pension, compared to civilised countries, Karl Obviously nobody could disagree about how poor the pension is. The thumbs downers do not have the courage to make their views known. That probably happens because they dislike the evidence.

Mr Clewer is very quiet. Perhaps he was looking for the drain that was buried during the market square sheme, resulting in workers brushing away the water on the corner of Enless Street and Blue Boar Row, so I was told.
I think it is a thumbs down to the pitiful pension, compared to civilised countries, Karl Obviously nobody could disagree about how poor the pension is. The thumbs downers do not have the courage to make their views known. That probably happens because they dislike the evidence. Mr Clewer is very quiet. Perhaps he was looking for the drain that was buried during the market square sheme, resulting in workers brushing away the water on the corner of Enless Street and Blue Boar Row, so I was told. Grampie

3:36am Mon 6 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

Yes it is strange that we never see any evidence put forward by the Tory supporters, is there any?
It's a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas at the moment. We can wait.
Yes it is strange that we never see any evidence put forward by the Tory supporters, is there any? It's a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas at the moment. We can wait. karlmarx

6:39am Mon 6 Jan 14

Colmanskid says...

karlmarx wrote:
Latest Tory propaganda blurb

Scameron to protect state pension

Lets take a look...

State Pension in UK- approx £5500 pa.
State pension in Germany- approx £20000 pa.
State pension in Sweden- approx £25000 pa.
State pension in virtually every other country in Europe- MUCH more than in UK.
WHY?
We are one of the richest countries but we, the workers are paid a pittance in retirement.
We're all in this together, we are told- haha- now that's a joke!

Over to you, again!

Cue a plethora of negative voting to try alter reality ;-)
Karlmarx the figures for the German State Pension of £20000 is that based on only the Gesetzilche Rentenversicherung (State Pension Insurance) which is the basic state pension of which the maximum per annum is £24k a year but requires you to earn £53k a year to benefit from that. Although the average pension in Germany for 2012 was only £12552 per annum. Or do your figures include the Voluntary Occupation Pension Plan and Private on top?
[quote][p][bold]karlmarx[/bold] wrote: Latest Tory propaganda blurb Scameron to protect state pension Lets take a look... State Pension in UK- approx £5500 pa. State pension in Germany- approx £20000 pa. State pension in Sweden- approx £25000 pa. State pension in virtually every other country in Europe- MUCH more than in UK. WHY? We are one of the richest countries but we, the workers are paid a pittance in retirement. We're all in this together, we are told- haha- now that's a joke! Over to you, again! Cue a plethora of negative voting to try alter reality ;-)[/p][/quote]Karlmarx the figures for the German State Pension of £20000 is that based on only the Gesetzilche Rentenversicherung (State Pension Insurance) which is the basic state pension of which the maximum per annum is £24k a year but requires you to earn £53k a year to benefit from that. Although the average pension in Germany for 2012 was only £12552 per annum. Or do your figures include the Voluntary Occupation Pension Plan and Private on top? Colmanskid

3:34pm Mon 6 Jan 14

blackstone says...

I would be happy with £12552
I would be happy with £12552 blackstone

4:34pm Mon 6 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

blackstone wrote:
I would be happy with £12552
Me too.
[quote][p][bold]blackstone[/bold] wrote: I would be happy with £12552[/p][/quote]Me too. karlmarx

8:36pm Mon 6 Jan 14

journalist1 says...

What have pensions got to do with Sainsbury's?
What have pensions got to do with Sainsbury's? journalist1

9:36pm Mon 6 Jan 14

karlmarx says...

journalist1 wrote:
What have pensions got to do with Sainsbury's?
Absolutely nothing!

"A scoping application is a request for an opinion on what information should be included in an environmental statement submitted with plans, and the council will now consult with statutory consultees such as the Environment Agency and English Heritage before responding."
"A council spokesman said: “It is not something that is open to consultation with the public."

Just like the publics opinion, as you can see. Money and profit always come before common sense and public opinion.
[quote][p][bold]journalist1[/bold] wrote: What have pensions got to do with Sainsbury's?[/p][/quote]Absolutely nothing! "A scoping application is a request for an opinion on what information should be included in an environmental statement submitted with plans, and the council will now consult with statutory consultees such as the Environment Agency and English Heritage before responding." "A council spokesman said: “It is not something that is open to consultation with the public." Just like the publics opinion, as you can see. Money and profit always come before common sense and public opinion. karlmarx

9:57pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Colmanskid says...

karlmarx wrote:
blackstone wrote:
I would be happy with £12552
Me too.
Does sound like decent pension, however you have to realise in Germany there are no free bus passes, no free prescriptions. The TV licence which is roughly the same as ours is paid by everyone no matter if you over 75 or not. Unlike the UK they have only just this year introduced a winter fuel payment. Before anybody starts quoting the reports of free bus passes being phased out, I agree those wealthy pensioners shouldn't pay it and quite a few celebrity pensioners returned theirs.
[quote][p][bold]karlmarx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackstone[/bold] wrote: I would be happy with £12552[/p][/quote]Me too.[/p][/quote]Does sound like decent pension, however you have to realise in Germany there are no free bus passes, no free prescriptions. The TV licence which is roughly the same as ours is paid by everyone no matter if you over 75 or not. Unlike the UK they have only just this year introduced a winter fuel payment. Before anybody starts quoting the reports of free bus passes being phased out, I agree those wealthy pensioners shouldn't pay it and quite a few celebrity pensioners returned theirs. Colmanskid

8:02pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Schoolmum999 says...

I can't understand how Sainsburys are still considering this site. It is obvious that most local residents are against further development on Southampton Road, as we all know it is already a traffic nightmare. Another large supermarket will only make the traffic worse and to propose to build on flood plain when the country is currently suffering some of the worst floods ever, is madness.

I do however agree that competition is a good thing and Salisbury could support another supermarket, which would create jobs. This would still be achieved if a new supermarket were built to the west of the city, as residents that side would no longer need to make the journey across the city. Two birds one stone? Build to the west, create jobs and relieve traffic congestion on Southampton Road. Result!
I can't understand how Sainsburys are still considering this site. It is obvious that most local residents are against further development on Southampton Road, as we all know it is already a traffic nightmare. Another large supermarket will only make the traffic worse and to propose to build on flood plain when the country is currently suffering some of the worst floods ever, is madness. I do however agree that competition is a good thing and Salisbury could support another supermarket, which would create jobs. This would still be achieved if a new supermarket were built to the west of the city, as residents that side would no longer need to make the journey across the city. Two birds one stone? Build to the west, create jobs and relieve traffic congestion on Southampton Road. Result! Schoolmum999

10:30am Wed 8 Jan 14

gingin says...

Schoolmum999 wrote:
I can't understand how Sainsburys are still considering this site. It is obvious that most local residents are against further development on Southampton Road, as we all know it is already a traffic nightmare. Another large supermarket will only make the traffic worse and to propose to build on flood plain when the country is currently suffering some of the worst floods ever, is madness.

I do however agree that competition is a good thing and Salisbury could support another supermarket, which would create jobs. This would still be achieved if a new supermarket were built to the west of the city, as residents that side would no longer need to make the journey across the city. Two birds one stone? Build to the west, create jobs and relieve traffic congestion on Southampton Road. Result!
Absolutely, however we with the common sense are up against Wiltshire Council planners and as usual nothing is ever up for public consultation early enough to make a difference! Even when there is a public consultation and I quote the one for the TRO on Pearce Way at Hampton Park the deputy leader and cabinet member Councillor John Thomson just ignores it and gives the go ahead.

We cannot trust WC or the administration to do what is right. So a reminder to sign the petition to get rid of the arrogant leader and her cabinet so we can perhaps have councillors who actually live in the south of Wiltshire having more of a say on our future.
[quote][p][bold]Schoolmum999[/bold] wrote: I can't understand how Sainsburys are still considering this site. It is obvious that most local residents are against further development on Southampton Road, as we all know it is already a traffic nightmare. Another large supermarket will only make the traffic worse and to propose to build on flood plain when the country is currently suffering some of the worst floods ever, is madness. I do however agree that competition is a good thing and Salisbury could support another supermarket, which would create jobs. This would still be achieved if a new supermarket were built to the west of the city, as residents that side would no longer need to make the journey across the city. Two birds one stone? Build to the west, create jobs and relieve traffic congestion on Southampton Road. Result![/p][/quote]Absolutely, however we with the common sense are up against Wiltshire Council planners and as usual nothing is ever up for public consultation early enough to make a difference! Even when there is a public consultation and I quote the one for the TRO on Pearce Way at Hampton Park the deputy leader and cabinet member Councillor John Thomson just ignores it and gives the go ahead. We cannot trust WC or the administration to do what is right. So a reminder to sign the petition to get rid of the arrogant leader and her cabinet so we can perhaps have councillors who actually live in the south of Wiltshire having more of a say on our future. gingin

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