Harnham school traffic could mean road closure

Harnham school traffic could mean road closure

Harnham school traffic could mean road closure

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TWO roads in Harnham could be closed to non residents on weekdays because parents are causing chaos on the school run.

People trying to get to the popular infant and junior schools are parking on pavements and yellow lines in Hollows Close and stopping householders getting out.

And they are spilling over into neighbouring Folkestone Road.

“It’s like the Wild West in Hollows Close at dropping-off time,” said city councillor Ian Tomes, a junior school parent.

“It’s quite dangerous. You have to walk in the road because the pavements are completely blocked. People can’t get out of their drives,”

said ward councillor Brian Dalton, who was called in by residents to help them campaign for a permit-only zone.

“People park on the yellow lines at the top of the close and some have been quite rude, refusing to move. Cars have been damaged, too.”

Hollows Close resident Tim Bilton said: “I live on the bend opposite the school and we have had a brick wall and a fence knocked down and our garage door has been knocked off its rollers twice.

“These people park on your drive or across your drive.

They have no regard for the Highway Code. If you ask them to move you get abuse.

“On the yellow lines it’s chock-a-block every day.

“These cars have to turn round because we’re a no through road, and I’m worried about the safety of parents and children who do walk. We’ve had a couple of near misses in the last few months.”

But there are fears that a clampdown will only move the problem elsewhere.

Saxon Road, running up to the schools’ site, already has similar restrictions in place, and there is an ongoing public consultation about yellow lines in Parsonage Green because buses cannot get through.

Cllr Tomes said: “People are like water, really, they’ll flow to the next easy spot.”

The schools do have a green travel plan and parents are encouraged to walk or cycle, and to use Old Blandford Road for parking.

But Cllr Tomes said that many would not walk that far, especially if they need to go on to work or if it was raining.

The schools’ headteachers, Luke Coles and Suzanne Clarke, said: “We have been working for a while with our neighbours in our joint travel group.

“We encourage parents to park in specific areas so children can walk with them to school, and have issued maps of suggested safe routes.

“We have been very successful in raising the number who walk or cycle. But there will be some for whom this is not an option and it would be quite useful to have a discussion about what arrangements could be put in place for them. We accept that you do risk moving the problem to the next road.

“While we understand the frustrations of our neighbours, this is an issue for all schools.”

Wiltshire Council said public feedback would be carefully considered and decisions would rest with deputy leader John Thomson.

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9:28am Thu 1 May 14

Roosmama says...

Whilst I do agree with most of the residents concerns (and yes some parents are very rude) I do wonder why other options have not been explored. Why do they not have a parking officer at Hollows close daily? Why when the police come (once in a blue moon) they don't ticket cars they just have a word with the driver? In a day when technology is so advanced why are residents not allowed to take pictures of the offending vehicle with the time and date shown and send them to the council, then the driver should be sent a ticket in the post. I just feel that there are a few options before blocking all roads to a busy school.
Whilst I do agree with most of the residents concerns (and yes some parents are very rude) I do wonder why other options have not been explored. Why do they not have a parking officer at Hollows close daily? Why when the police come (once in a blue moon) they don't ticket cars they just have a word with the driver? In a day when technology is so advanced why are residents not allowed to take pictures of the offending vehicle with the time and date shown and send them to the council, then the driver should be sent a ticket in the post. I just feel that there are a few options before blocking all roads to a busy school. Roosmama
  • Score: 26

10:33am Thu 1 May 14

gingin says...

Councillor Tomes mentioned that most people wouldn't walk if it was raining!! For goodness sake haven't they heard of macs, coats and umbrellas?

With so many children being classed as over weight a walk doesn't hurt anyone.

I agree with the concerns of the residents it must be very frustrating.
Councillor Tomes mentioned that most people wouldn't walk if it was raining!! For goodness sake haven't they heard of macs, coats and umbrellas? With so many children being classed as over weight a walk doesn't hurt anyone. I agree with the concerns of the residents it must be very frustrating. gingin
  • Score: 34

2:46pm Thu 1 May 14

Old Salisbury Boy says...

Really can't believe that the money grabbing council haven't put down yellow lines and parking meters and then sent in their ticket issuing officers (anyone else think they are looking more like the Police than the Police these days?)
Really can't believe that the money grabbing council haven't put down yellow lines and parking meters and then sent in their ticket issuing officers (anyone else think they are looking more like the Police than the Police these days?) Old Salisbury Boy
  • Score: 2

4:42pm Thu 1 May 14

montyzoomersmum says...

It is sad that so many kids are being driven when they are within walking distance. No wonder there is so much childhood obesity around. If they have to drive, can't they park across the road (by cricket pitch/town path), cross at the crossing and walk up?
Lazy parents and children
It is sad that so many kids are being driven when they are within walking distance. No wonder there is so much childhood obesity around. If they have to drive, can't they park across the road (by cricket pitch/town path), cross at the crossing and walk up? Lazy parents and children montyzoomersmum
  • Score: 13

5:44pm Thu 1 May 14

HappyChappie15 says...

The parking restriction on Old Blandford Road was changed some time ago from all day parking to a two hour limit. This was I understood to facilitate the schools Travel Plan and allow those driving children to school to park and walk through to the schools. There is ample parking on Old Blandford Road and the walk, even in the rain, would be good exercise!
The parking restriction on Old Blandford Road was changed some time ago from all day parking to a two hour limit. This was I understood to facilitate the schools Travel Plan and allow those driving children to school to park and walk through to the schools. There is ample parking on Old Blandford Road and the walk, even in the rain, would be good exercise! HappyChappie15
  • Score: 12

5:20pm Fri 2 May 14

sen86 says...

I'm a parent of two Harnham School children. I drive the kids to school because it's a half hour walk otherwise, and when we've tried it, we usually get bullied off the pavements by cyclists who move over or slow down for no-one. I agree that some parents are incredibly arrogant with their parking, but I do think that the police could do more and that the traffic wardens are really missing out on some serious income. I also think the schools could do more to deal with persistent offenders as they do nothing at all to inform parents or monitor it. A polite comment in the occasional newsletter is not sufficient at all.
I'm a parent of two Harnham School children. I drive the kids to school because it's a half hour walk otherwise, and when we've tried it, we usually get bullied off the pavements by cyclists who move over or slow down for no-one. I agree that some parents are incredibly arrogant with their parking, but I do think that the police could do more and that the traffic wardens are really missing out on some serious income. I also think the schools could do more to deal with persistent offenders as they do nothing at all to inform parents or monitor it. A polite comment in the occasional newsletter is not sufficient at all. sen86
  • Score: 7

8:02pm Fri 2 May 14

S Pance says...

sen86, why not park in the Cricket Pitch car park or on Netherhampton Road or somewhere on the estate?
sen86, why not park in the Cricket Pitch car park or on Netherhampton Road or somewhere on the estate? S Pance
  • Score: 0

8:05pm Fri 2 May 14

S Pance says...

I have heard that part of Parsonage Green will be dug up and replaced by a car park.

This explains why a perfectly good tree is in the process of being cut down as it's one less obstacle to receiving planning permission.

Ask Salisbury Council to deny it and see what the reaction is...
I have heard that part of Parsonage Green will be dug up and replaced by a car park. This explains why a perfectly good tree is in the process of being cut down as it's one less obstacle to receiving planning permission. Ask Salisbury Council to deny it and see what the reaction is... S Pance
  • Score: 2

7:35am Sat 3 May 14

DowntonDAN says...

There is loads of parking within a ten minute walk of the schools.
Try it. It won't kill you or your kids.
Surely the large car park by the Scouts Hall can be used without needing survival equipment to complete the arduous journey.
Downton Primary asked parents not to use the road running past the school to park. They park elsewhere... the kids walk, and entering the school is a lot safer.
There is loads of parking within a ten minute walk of the schools. Try it. It won't kill you or your kids. Surely the large car park by the Scouts Hall can be used without needing survival equipment to complete the arduous journey. Downton Primary asked parents not to use the road running past the school to park. They park elsewhere... the kids walk, and entering the school is a lot safer. DowntonDAN
  • Score: 12

7:37am Sat 3 May 14

sen86 says...

To S Pance - I do! I never park in Hollows Close, it's too busy.
To S Pance - I do! I never park in Hollows Close, it's too busy. sen86
  • Score: 13

11:38am Sat 3 May 14

Roosmama says...

The cricket field has cars parked in with dog walkers and people working in town and Netherhampton road is a main road with lorries storming past, it is not really safe. Parents park for many reasons, work, children at other schools, after school clubs, disabilities, child care issue's. Do not tar all parents and children lazy just because some parents are idiots. You will find most parents agree with you that something needs to be done about the ones who park illegally, some of us would cheer at them getting a ticket or even being towed away, we understand it is not fair to residents but most of us park legally. Oh and yes some days I park there, never illegally and some days we walk, even in the rain, my children love jumping in puddles.
The cricket field has cars parked in with dog walkers and people working in town and Netherhampton road is a main road with lorries storming past, it is not really safe. Parents park for many reasons, work, children at other schools, after school clubs, disabilities, child care issue's. Do not tar all parents and children lazy just because some parents are idiots. You will find most parents agree with you that something needs to be done about the ones who park illegally, some of us would cheer at them getting a ticket or even being towed away, we understand it is not fair to residents but most of us park legally. Oh and yes some days I park there, never illegally and some days we walk, even in the rain, my children love jumping in puddles. Roosmama
  • Score: 8

12:00pm Sat 3 May 14

HappyChappie15 says...

The issues of concern are not solely about illegal parking, as dangerous and irresponsible as that is. It is also about the sheer volume of traffic entering and exiting roads such as Hollows Close twice a day. So what is the problem with using Old Blandford Road where parking areas are clearly designated?
The issues of concern are not solely about illegal parking, as dangerous and irresponsible as that is. It is also about the sheer volume of traffic entering and exiting roads such as Hollows Close twice a day. So what is the problem with using Old Blandford Road where parking areas are clearly designated? HappyChappie15
  • Score: 9

12:05pm Sat 3 May 14

Roosmama says...

Parents do park there, the road is usually full up to the top of the hill.
Parents do park there, the road is usually full up to the top of the hill. Roosmama
  • Score: 8

6:06pm Mon 5 May 14

Aethernet says...

"Netherhampton road is a main road with lorries storming past, it is not really safe."

There's a pedestrian crossing which is perfectly safe.
"Netherhampton road is a main road with lorries storming past, it is not really safe." There's a pedestrian crossing which is perfectly safe. Aethernet
  • Score: 8

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