Concern over Brown Street coach park plans

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A PROPOSAL to turn Brown Street car park into a new coach park has received a lukewarm response.

Salisbury city councillor Helena McKeown posed the question after she was asked to see whether local people were in favour of the city centre car park being used for tourist coach parking instead.

The plan would see coach drivers dropping their passengers off in Brown Street so they can visit the city’s attractions.

Drivers with passengers who are spending a long time in the city could then go on to Britford park and ride, while short-stay coaches would wait in Brown Street.

A new coach parking plan is needed because the existing Millstream coach park will be lost as part of developer Stanhope’s project to redevelop the Maltings and Central car park.

Salisbury currently has Coach Friendly Status and tourism chiefs say it is vital the city keeps the accreditation in order to compete with rival tourist destinations.

But several groups including blue badge tourist guides, shoppers and motorcyclists have already raised questions about using Brown Street car park as a coach park.

“The route to Brown Street would be up Exeter Street, Catherine Street, right into Milford Street and right again into Brown Street. This movement would then be repeated when the coach returns to pick up passengers,” said Blue Badge guide Helena Wright. “Compare this with the present coach park at Millstream. Coaches slip in discreetly off the ring road and stay there, avoiding vehicle movement in the town centre.

“The 2015 Magna Carta celebrations at the cathedral will very likely increase this traffic. That’s a lot of people coming to spend, and any shrinkage in this would be bad for local businesses.

“Millstream has a refreshment kiosk and pub, a room for drivers and, most importantly, toilets. These are quite old and need to be refurbished, but are vital. It has been suggested that portable toilets are put in Brown Street. What kind of place is this which spends £75m on a new development and presents visitors with portable toilets?”

Nick Hancock from Salisbury Motorcycle Action Group added: “There are currently plans to increase motorcycle parking in this area (Brown Street). This is to replace the motorcycle spaces lost from the market square and New Canal.

"If Brown Street car park were to become a coach park then new plans for motorcycle parking will need to be drawn up, effectively writing off the money already spent.”

A Wiltshire Council spokesman said: “The Salisbury Vision task group on car and coach parking has been exploring options with key stakeholders to relocate short stay coach parking to an area of Brown Street car park.

“The group will be working closely with the council’s transport service to test the feasibility of this option.

While a change of use of for Brown Street car park would result in the loss of some existing parking, the refurbished Shoppers car park at Culver Street is very close by and is now free of charge on Sundays.”

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7:25pm Wed 14 May 14

HappyChappie15 says...

Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying?
Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying? HappyChappie15
  • Score: 27

9:11am Thu 15 May 14

whiteparishoner says...

As I have observed many times before, all schemes (development, roads, whatever) proposed for Salisbury seem to result in a reduction in car parking spaces in town. This is a rural area with poor public transport so it is essential that town centre parking is maximised for the benefit of local residents and council taxpayers.

Do local people who want to go into town really care that Salisbury is "coach friendly"? They just want to drive to town, park easily and go to work or shopping.

Tourist coaches should be accommodated at an alternative location in the Central Car Park area or the P&R sites.
As I have observed many times before, all schemes (development, roads, whatever) proposed for Salisbury seem to result in a reduction in car parking spaces in town. This is a rural area with poor public transport so it is essential that town centre parking is maximised for the benefit of local residents and council taxpayers. Do local people who want to go into town really care that Salisbury is "coach friendly"? They just want to drive to town, park easily and go to work or shopping. Tourist coaches should be accommodated at an alternative location in the Central Car Park area or the P&R sites. whiteparishoner
  • Score: 22

8:55pm Thu 15 May 14

Schoolmum999 says...

This plan to park coaches in Brown Street is lunacy! Surely we want to make shopping in Salisbury easier, not more difficult. The redevelopment of the central car park should ideally include a bus station with facilities for coaches to drop off their passengers. The coaches could then go and park at the empty park and rides.
This plan to park coaches in Brown Street is lunacy! Surely we want to make shopping in Salisbury easier, not more difficult. The redevelopment of the central car park should ideally include a bus station with facilities for coaches to drop off their passengers. The coaches could then go and park at the empty park and rides. Schoolmum999
  • Score: 19

9:36pm Fri 16 May 14

markwillt says...

more silver spoon goons making plans to destroy the citysas they always have and always will
more silver spoon goons making plans to destroy the citysas they always have and always will markwillt
  • Score: 1

10:28pm Mon 19 May 14

Morello says...

Hey you guys, stop being selfish about your shopper parking, tourism is absolutely vital to Salisbury, it's the only way the existing facilities will be kept.

But I do agree that the plans are crazy. In a city reliant upon tourism what incompetent buffoon would sell off the coach park ? Why did the councillors that "we elected to speak for us" allow the Trowbridge pillage junta to sell off the coach park before they had a workable alternative ?

If we're not careful some equally stupid authority will sell off the police station without having an alternative organised.

We've become used to Mrs Scott and her northern band trying to drag Salisbury down to their level. But why do our local councillors, our MP and even our local newspaper never speak up against these ghastly people.

Seems we always have to rely on Karl & Grampie to keep us informed.
Hey you guys, stop being selfish about your shopper parking, tourism is absolutely vital to Salisbury, it's the only way the existing facilities will be kept. But I do agree that the plans are crazy. In a city reliant upon tourism what incompetent buffoon would sell off the coach park ? Why did the councillors that "we elected to speak for us" allow the Trowbridge pillage junta to sell off the coach park before they had a workable alternative ? If we're not careful some equally stupid authority will sell off the police station without having an alternative organised. We've become used to Mrs Scott and her northern band trying to drag Salisbury down to their level. But why do our local councillors, our MP and even our local newspaper never speak up against these ghastly people. Seems we always have to rely on Karl & Grampie to keep us informed. Morello
  • Score: 7

11:23pm Mon 19 May 14

minkleberry says...

HappyChappie15 wrote:
Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying?
Happychappie, I think that is one of the most level headed,sensible suggestions I have heard in relation to Salisbury in a long time. It would reduce the congestion in the city centre, make use of the massively underused white elephants that are the P&R, and would mean the coach parties no longer have to run to see any sights as current time constraints on them would be reduced. Every route into Salisbury has a P&R, so the coaches would not even need to enter the city at all. I would be interested to hear the views of Richard Clewer on this suggestion.
[quote][p][bold]HappyChappie15[/bold] wrote: Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying?[/p][/quote]Happychappie, I think that is one of the most level headed,sensible suggestions I have heard in relation to Salisbury in a long time. It would reduce the congestion in the city centre, make use of the massively underused white elephants that are the P&R, and would mean the coach parties no longer have to run to see any sights as current time constraints on them would be reduced. Every route into Salisbury has a P&R, so the coaches would not even need to enter the city at all. I would be interested to hear the views of Richard Clewer on this suggestion. minkleberry
  • Score: 7

10:06am Tue 20 May 14

gingin says...

minkleberry wrote:
HappyChappie15 wrote:
Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying?
Happychappie, I think that is one of the most level headed,sensible suggestions I have heard in relation to Salisbury in a long time. It would reduce the congestion in the city centre, make use of the massively underused white elephants that are the P&R, and would mean the coach parties no longer have to run to see any sights as current time constraints on them would be reduced. Every route into Salisbury has a P&R, so the coaches would not even need to enter the city at all. I would be interested to hear the views of Richard Clewer on this suggestion.
Going further than just parking the coaches the P&R sites could also be used for commuter parking if a couple of the buses did a round trip so they could actually get back to the sites and pick up their cars!!

At least it would give the choice for those who wished to leave their cars at P&R. It's that choice which we seem to lack in Salisbury with a transport strategy which falls short of what is actually needed.
[quote][p][bold]minkleberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HappyChappie15[/bold] wrote: Brown Street car park is extensively used by shoppers. Why can't all coaches be directed to Park and Ride sites, regardless of how long they are staying?[/p][/quote]Happychappie, I think that is one of the most level headed,sensible suggestions I have heard in relation to Salisbury in a long time. It would reduce the congestion in the city centre, make use of the massively underused white elephants that are the P&R, and would mean the coach parties no longer have to run to see any sights as current time constraints on them would be reduced. Every route into Salisbury has a P&R, so the coaches would not even need to enter the city at all. I would be interested to hear the views of Richard Clewer on this suggestion.[/p][/quote]Going further than just parking the coaches the P&R sites could also be used for commuter parking if a couple of the buses did a round trip so they could actually get back to the sites and pick up their cars!! At least it would give the choice for those who wished to leave their cars at P&R. It's that choice which we seem to lack in Salisbury with a transport strategy which falls short of what is actually needed. gingin
  • Score: 3

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