Concerns over hospital parking

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SCIENTISTS at Salisbury Hospital say parking should be put under the microscope because there are not enough spaces for staff.

Sheryl Kay, a biomedical scientist in the hospital’s pathology lab says when she drives to work to start a shift after 9am, it is often impossible to find a space, even though she pays £22 per month for the privilege.

The 34-year-old, who lives in Waterloo Road, Salisbury, said she and her colleagues in the lab have such problems five or six times a month. She said: “I don’t mind paying for parking - it’s paying for not having a space that I object to. You see people driving round and round and I can be late for a shift because of it.”

She has been driving a car for a year and prefers not to take the bus to work because she says she sometimes works late hours and buses are not reliable.

Figures obtained by Mrs Kay using a Freedom of Information request show that 1,400 staff pay monthly for car parking and that there are 985 staff spaces, 165 staff bays, 15 car share spaces and about 280 spaces for residents, or shared between residents and staff or staff and patients.

In response to the complaints, hospital spokesman Patrick Butler said parking spaces were used flexibly to allow for fluctuations in demand.

He added: “The trust acknowledges the difficulty that some staff may have parking at specific times of the day and is currently carrying out a review on the availability of staff parking spaces during peak periods.”

He said when 260 additional spaces were approved in 2007, planners had required the hospital trust to encourage staff and visitors to cycle and walk or to use public transport or car-sharing.

Mark Wareham, Unison steward and staff side secretary at the hospital, said: “It benefits nobody if staff are being made late for shifts because of having to find a parking space.”

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2:19pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Old Salisbury Boy says...

It's a shame the Britford Park and Ride bus does not serve the hospital, the two sites are so close.
It's a shame the Britford Park and Ride bus does not serve the hospital, the two sites are so close. Old Salisbury Boy
  • Score: 13

4:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

RAFRetd says...

I have little sympathy for Sheryl as she lives just 2 miles from the hospital, At her age she should be able to walk easily to work in less than 40 minutes (uphill) and back home in 30 minutes (downhill) . I suggest this would be good for her health as it would help her achieve the 10,000 steps the NHS recommend a day. Not quick enough? Then get a bicycle or an electric bicycle. ......... .The route from Waterloo Road is virtually traffic free with push button Toucan crossings to get across the A36 and A338 so it is safe and many other walkers and cyclists use the route. I am twice her age and regularly cycle to the hospital to do my voluntary work. Using her muscles means she will not be delayed or inconvenienced by traffic, she will save money (no parking fees, no petrol/diesel & less wear and tear on her car) and improve her health. So stop moaning and help the environment and yourself ............. stop driving just 2 miles to work!
I have little sympathy for Sheryl as she lives just 2 miles from the hospital, At her age she should be able to walk easily to work in less than 40 minutes (uphill) and back home in 30 minutes (downhill) . I suggest this would be good for her health as it would help her achieve the 10,000 steps the NHS recommend a day. Not quick enough? Then get a bicycle or an electric bicycle. ......... .The route from Waterloo Road is virtually traffic free with push button Toucan crossings to get across the A36 and A338 so it is safe and many other walkers and cyclists use the route. I am twice her age and regularly cycle to the hospital to do my voluntary work. Using her muscles means she will not be delayed or inconvenienced by traffic, she will save money (no parking fees, no petrol/diesel & less wear and tear on her car) and improve her health. So stop moaning and help the environment and yourself ............. stop driving just 2 miles to work! RAFRetd
  • Score: -7

8:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Schoolmum999 says...

The article only mentions staff who pay monthly, my husband works at the hospital and pays for parking via daily scratchcards at £1.50 per day. So double the 1,400 above and then you'll see why there is no space. He arrives at work 45 minutes before his start time to ensure he gets a space. His department were given the good news yesterday that parking charges are not going up this year. They went up 50% last year. He was however also told that they have yet to decide if he is getting a 1% payrise this year, as the Trust is line for a further £25M of funding cuts.!
The article only mentions staff who pay monthly, my husband works at the hospital and pays for parking via daily scratchcards at £1.50 per day. So double the 1,400 above and then you'll see why there is no space. He arrives at work 45 minutes before his start time to ensure he gets a space. His department were given the good news yesterday that parking charges are not going up this year. They went up 50% last year. He was however also told that they have yet to decide if he is getting a 1% payrise this year, as the Trust is line for a further £25M of funding cuts.! Schoolmum999
  • Score: 5

9:44am Thu 27 Feb 14

SherylKay says...

In response to RAFRetd: I 'used my muscles' and walked to the hospital and also got the bus for 10 years before I learnt to drive in 2012. I would regularly be late due to the astonishingly bad (overpriced) bus service and get soaked waiting for the bus and also walking along New Bridge Road as drivers seem to be unaware of puddles.
I also do not enjoy walking by myself through a poorly lit park (Churchill Gardens), the area near the toilet blocks being particularly badly thought out or in fact anywhere near the hospital.
The shifts mentioned in the article finish at 8pm and I'm sure I don't have to point out how bright and sunny it is at that time. I also work 12 hour night shifts which start at 8pm, which has the same problem of again walking on my own across a poorly lit park.
I can walk into town but again the route is poorly lit and my friend has been followed by two men.
Thank you for your advice to purchase a bicycle but as I live in a block of flats I have no storage facilities for it and no, it cannot be stored in a communal hallway due to Health and Safety.
This is not about me personally it's about the other staff members who I see driving around and around and the knock on effect this has on being late for work and handing over to staff. People are paying for a shoddy service.
Sheryl
In response to RAFRetd: I 'used my muscles' and walked to the hospital and also got the bus for 10 years before I learnt to drive in 2012. I would regularly be late due to the astonishingly bad (overpriced) bus service and get soaked waiting for the bus and also walking along New Bridge Road as drivers seem to be unaware of puddles. I also do not enjoy walking by myself through a poorly lit park (Churchill Gardens), the area near the toilet blocks being particularly badly thought out or in fact anywhere near the hospital. The shifts mentioned in the article finish at 8pm and I'm sure I don't have to point out how bright and sunny it is at that time. I also work 12 hour night shifts which start at 8pm, which has the same problem of again walking on my own across a poorly lit park. I can walk into town but again the route is poorly lit and my friend has been followed by two men. Thank you for your advice to purchase a bicycle but as I live in a block of flats I have no storage facilities for it and no, it cannot be stored in a communal hallway due to Health and Safety. This is not about me personally it's about the other staff members who I see driving around and around and the knock on effect this has on being late for work and handing over to staff. People are paying for a shoddy service. Sheryl SherylKay
  • Score: 21

11:24am Fri 28 Feb 14

RAFRetd says...

The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward.
The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward. RAFRetd
  • Score: -12

4:49pm Fri 28 Feb 14

whiteparishoner says...

RAFRetd wrote:
The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward.
"Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward."
...but unfortunately doomed to failure. Just get on with it and provide people who pay for the health service with what they want - car park spaces for staff and visitors. We all have to accept that the hospital is not in a convenient location for any other practical mode of transport which allows flexibility in time and demand.
[quote][p][bold]RAFRetd[/bold] wrote: The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward.[/p][/quote]"Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward." ...but unfortunately doomed to failure. Just get on with it and provide people who pay for the health service with what they want - car park spaces for staff and visitors. We all have to accept that the hospital is not in a convenient location for any other practical mode of transport which allows flexibility in time and demand. whiteparishoner
  • Score: 9

10:41pm Fri 28 Feb 14

SherylKay says...

RAFRetd 'So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back'. Unfortunately being a young, lone female I very rarely feel safe walking or even cycling anywhere alone in the dark. I'm sure you can understand this, I don't want to take unnecessary risks with my well being. Especially when I don't need to as this is the whole reason I got my car.

'We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved' - I feel that you're being unreasonably optimistic with this outlook as you don't know people's personal abilities/disabiliti
es that may require them to drive a car even though they live within 5 miles of the hospital.

The bicycle you quoted is generally £980-£1200, if the NHS is willing to increase my wages so I am able to afford this it may be an option I will consider.

Again you have missed the point entirely, it is about ensuring there are enough spaces for staff who pay regardless of where they have driven from. I may add I am not the only one with this concern.
RAFRetd 'So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back'. Unfortunately being a young, lone female I very rarely feel safe walking or even cycling anywhere alone in the dark. I'm sure you can understand this, I don't want to take unnecessary risks with my well being. Especially when I don't need to as this is the whole reason I got my car. 'We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved' - I feel that you're being unreasonably optimistic with this outlook as you don't know people's personal abilities/disabiliti es that may require them to drive a car even though they live within 5 miles of the hospital. The bicycle you quoted is generally £980-£1200, if the NHS is willing to increase my wages so I am able to afford this it may be an option I will consider. Again you have missed the point entirely, it is about ensuring there are enough spaces for staff who pay regardless of where they have driven from. I may add I am not the only one with this concern. SherylKay
  • Score: 13

11:52pm Fri 28 Feb 14

je55ica says...

RAFRet, stop suggesting that Sheryl should take alternative modes of transport to work. That's not the point of this article! The point is we all pay for the car park and it is very frustrating when you cannot get a space. Lack of spaces mean staff are late to work and often arrived stressed which is not the best way to start a shift. Nothing has been done by the hospital about this infuriating situation.

I'm sure more of us would get the bus if they were cheaper and more regular. I used to get the bus, I would have to get two buses, which were always late and their schedule did not fit well with my shifts. I would usually get home almost an hour after finishing work although that would have only been a 10/15minute car journey.
RAFRet, stop suggesting that Sheryl should take alternative modes of transport to work. That's not the point of this article! The point is we all pay for the car park and it is very frustrating when you cannot get a space. Lack of spaces mean staff are late to work and often arrived stressed which is not the best way to start a shift. Nothing has been done by the hospital about this infuriating situation. I'm sure more of us would get the bus if they were cheaper and more regular. I used to get the bus, I would have to get two buses, which were always late and their schedule did not fit well with my shifts. I would usually get home almost an hour after finishing work although that would have only been a 10/15minute car journey. je55ica
  • Score: 15

12:38am Sat 1 Mar 14

Fisherman124 says...

RafRet, I think the point is I don't pay my water bill with the chance someone else is using my shower in the morning, I don't pay for the instalments on my brompton fold up bike with a lottery as to wether I can use it that day, I don't let waitrose take my money and then say the ran out of couscous. I agree points on fitness and the environment are good but not valid in this debate. Maybe you want to return to your high horse on mount pious, and let the hard working people fight for a service they pay for?
RafRet, I think the point is I don't pay my water bill with the chance someone else is using my shower in the morning, I don't pay for the instalments on my brompton fold up bike with a lottery as to wether I can use it that day, I don't let waitrose take my money and then say the ran out of couscous. I agree points on fitness and the environment are good but not valid in this debate. Maybe you want to return to your high horse on mount pious, and let the hard working people fight for a service they pay for? Fisherman124
  • Score: 16

8:30am Sat 1 Mar 14

Schoolmum999 says...

Is there not a risk to patients if staff are arriving late for work, stressed? I wouldn't worry too much though, as the forthcoming huge budget cuts may result in there being fewer staff, no more problem.
Is there not a risk to patients if staff are arriving late for work, stressed? I wouldn't worry too much though, as the forthcoming huge budget cuts may result in there being fewer staff, no more problem. Schoolmum999
  • Score: 6

3:20pm Sat 1 Mar 14

TheRedOne says...

RAFRetd wrote:
The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward.
"We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars". I'm getting a feeling you have a vested interest in this RAFRetd as you use the word 'we'!

Again though, you missed the entire point - Sheryl bought her car, paid for her insurance, taxed it, and filled it with petrol, all so she could drive it when and where she wants. She then paid for parking, which is only available some of the time she requires it. At what point is it legal to charge for a service and then not provide it?

Even if Sheryl (or anyone else for that matter) chose to walk or cycle most days, the terrible winter we have had would make most sane people decide to take the car - turning up for work saturated is not fun.

Also, you have no idea of Sheryl's (or anyone else's) state of health - maybe she is unable to walk or cycle the 'mere' 2 miles to work.

"Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car" - brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? I'll just swap all my shifts for nights then - oh no, wait, I can't.

The problem is not people not walking/cycling, but the lack of enough spaces during the day for the people who pay for the parking.

I personally live over 20 miles away , as do many hospital staff - are you now suggesting we should find other ways to get into work too?
[quote][p][bold]RAFRetd[/bold] wrote: The good news Sheryl is there is a bicycle perfect for your constraints. It is called a Brompton available at Stonehenge Cycles, Fisherton Street, I am sure they will lend you a demonstrator to try. Bromptons fold really easily and are light and compact enough when folded to be carried upstairs, store under desks and they also fit in car boots. They can also be taken on any train and bus. So when you feel safe you can cycle to work and back. Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car. We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars who live within 5 miles (30 minutes cycling) of the hospital and the car park situation would be greatly improved. Adding more car parks at SDH is NOT, I believe, the answer. Changing peoples habits and attitudes to commuting by public transport, bicycles, electric bikes, walking etc is the way forward.[/p][/quote]"We only need to find another 50 to 100 staff willing to stop using their cars". I'm getting a feeling you have a vested interest in this RAFRetd as you use the word 'we'! Again though, you missed the entire point - Sheryl bought her car, paid for her insurance, taxed it, and filled it with petrol, all so she could drive it when and where she wants. She then paid for parking, which is only available some of the time she requires it. At what point is it legal to charge for a service and then not provide it? Even if Sheryl (or anyone else for that matter) chose to walk or cycle most days, the terrible winter we have had would make most sane people decide to take the car - turning up for work saturated is not fun. Also, you have no idea of Sheryl's (or anyone else's) state of health - maybe she is unable to walk or cycle the 'mere' 2 miles to work. "Otherwise on shift when there is less pressure on SDH car parks you can use your car" - brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? I'll just swap all my shifts for nights then - oh no, wait, I can't. The problem is not people not walking/cycling, but the lack of enough spaces during the day for the people who pay for the parking. I personally live over 20 miles away , as do many hospital staff - are you now suggesting we should find other ways to get into work too? TheRedOne
  • Score: 12

7:04pm Sat 1 Mar 14

NewmanNogs says...

Well RAF retd, I am also RAF retired and dismayed by your lack of grasp of the big picture. Sheryl is not campaigning for selfish ends. The hospital caters for a large rural catchment area and draws its staff from the same hinterland.
If you served a full career in the RAF you will probably be unfamiliar with a hard day's work. You just think you are. Staff cannot walk or cycle in on a daily basis from Warminster, Devizes, Ringwood etc. Most of the staff with a direct input to patient treatment work shifts. Walking to work at midday is one thing, but a woman alone at 9pm.... Arriving from Warminster, Devizes etc and finding yourself unable to park is not condusive to people giving their best. Also the principle that you pay for the remote possibility of being able to park is absurd.
Well RAF retd, I am also RAF retired and dismayed by your lack of grasp of the big picture. Sheryl is not campaigning for selfish ends. The hospital caters for a large rural catchment area and draws its staff from the same hinterland. If you served a full career in the RAF you will probably be unfamiliar with a hard day's work. You just think you are. Staff cannot walk or cycle in on a daily basis from Warminster, Devizes, Ringwood etc. Most of the staff with a direct input to patient treatment work shifts. Walking to work at midday is one thing, but a woman alone at 9pm.... Arriving from Warminster, Devizes etc and finding yourself unable to park is not condusive to people giving their best. Also the principle that you pay for the remote possibility of being able to park is absurd. NewmanNogs
  • Score: 15

7:38pm Sun 2 Mar 14

aldonreaper says...

I believe it is correct to mention that even though we pay for a parking space if one is not available and you park elsewhere on site you are then fined for that so maybe if you cant park just go home and phone in sick to avoid the fine.
I believe it is correct to mention that even though we pay for a parking space if one is not available and you park elsewhere on site you are then fined for that so maybe if you cant park just go home and phone in sick to avoid the fine. aldonreaper
  • Score: 5

10:21pm Thu 6 Mar 14

mattscudder says...

The Journal has missed the point here, it is not about carrying a fold up bicycle 10 flights of stairs! Staff, patients and visitors should NOT be charged to park at the hospital it is an immoral money making scam to generate income for the Trust, it has NOTHING to do with Green living, exercise or anything else. All these things are just a smokescreen to throw you off the scent. Who else but an NHS Foundation Trust could get you to pay for something you're not getting and sell it several times over. They are just like airlines and hotels. I wonder what clever executive thought this one up!!
The Journal has missed the point here, it is not about carrying a fold up bicycle 10 flights of stairs! Staff, patients and visitors should NOT be charged to park at the hospital it is an immoral money making scam to generate income for the Trust, it has NOTHING to do with Green living, exercise or anything else. All these things are just a smokescreen to throw you off the scent. Who else but an NHS Foundation Trust could get you to pay for something you're not getting and sell it several times over. They are just like airlines and hotels. I wonder what clever executive thought this one up!! mattscudder
  • Score: 1

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