Speed limits need more investment

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MORE funds need to be spent on controlling the speed of cars in Salisbury, a committee of councillors has said.

Salisbury City Council’s planning and transportation committee was considering a request for a 20mph speed limit outside Manor Fields Primary School on Monday and said there was a “gross under-provision” of such limits in the city.

Wiltshire Council introduced new policies through the area board last year that mean all speed limit requests have to come from parish or town councils and in Salisbury only the two sites considered most urgent will be put to the area board and Highways department.

Several members of the committee said they had voiced their concerns that this is not good enough.

Cllr Matthew Dean said: “The resources they were going to put behind this was in no way adequate for the demand. It’s not really fair on the residents that don’t benefit from these 20mph areas. I think it’s a pretty poor deal considering the size of our geographical area.

“I don’t think we should consider requests in any competition with others. We should consider each application as it is submitted to us, as we would any planning application, and then lobby the area board and Highways because I don’t think they are being reasonable. For the size of our city, it’s a gross under-provision.”

Cllr Tom Corbin added: “I voiced my disdain for the process at the time. We haven’t got the ability to do what we want to; to really show our support in the way we would like to.”

The city council has seven applications requesting 20mph speed limits but the Manor Fields proposal is the first that has gone to the committee. Councillors decided not to support the application because they believe the area needs a part-time speed restriction at the school’s busy times. They voted to ask for more information to be brought to their next meeting.

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2:05pm Wed 26 Feb 14

simsruleok says...

Why cant we use the parking in the park and ride and have the bus go up to the hospital
Why cant we use the parking in the park and ride and have the bus go up to the hospital simsruleok
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6:17pm Wed 26 Feb 14

hillyanne says...

The speed limit is routinely ignored in Castle Street.Every time I walk down to town the speed sign lights up as cars do 28,30plus.Needs more to be done re the 20 limit.
The speed limit is routinely ignored in Castle Street.Every time I walk down to town the speed sign lights up as cars do 28,30plus.Needs more to be done re the 20 limit. hillyanne
  • Score: -6

10:26pm Wed 26 Feb 14

tnediser says...

Never mind the speed limits if something was done about all the vehicles which park on pavements this would make it much safer for pedestrians. Queen Alexandra Road and Devizes Road - both routes used by children walking to school are two such examples.
Never mind the speed limits if something was done about all the vehicles which park on pavements this would make it much safer for pedestrians. Queen Alexandra Road and Devizes Road - both routes used by children walking to school are two such examples. tnediser
  • Score: 3

2:14am Thu 27 Feb 14

John Todman says...

Now that all parking in Market Square has been banned, and many motorists, probably tourists have been trapped by the inadequate signage regarding no further parking, where does the council expect all these vehicles to relocate to???? We already suffer from a shortage of good parking spaces with the inevitable relocation by most business users into the back roads of the city. Has anyone considered the knock on effect this lack of parking will have in the high summer season??? Tourists arriving with their satnavs being guided into a minefield of 'Ambassadors' waiting to pounce on the unwary. Come on councillors, that newly laid block surface will take the weight of a tank judging by the enormous amounts of cement and strengthening that was laid down. Are we now to be left with a blank canvas in the middle of the City??? Tourists expect to come and take in the vistas except that there will be nowhere for them to sit in or around the square except for the coffee bars and pubs that will now encroach more into the area. When we first heard of the Vision for Salisbury we envisaged a new market square with seating beneath the trees, possibly a fountain in the middle of the square and NOT the planned rivulet running from top to bottom. Either make the area hospitable or let the motorists back in and regain the income from parking charges, or are you going to hoist all areas around Salisbury to make up for the forthcoming shortfall??????
Now that all parking in Market Square has been banned, and many motorists, probably tourists have been trapped by the inadequate signage regarding no further parking, where does the council expect all these vehicles to relocate to???? We already suffer from a shortage of good parking spaces with the inevitable relocation by most business users into the back roads of the city. Has anyone considered the knock on effect this lack of parking will have in the high summer season??? Tourists arriving with their satnavs being guided into a minefield of 'Ambassadors' waiting to pounce on the unwary. Come on councillors, that newly laid block surface will take the weight of a tank judging by the enormous amounts of cement and strengthening that was laid down. Are we now to be left with a blank canvas in the middle of the City??? Tourists expect to come and take in the vistas except that there will be nowhere for them to sit in or around the square except for the coffee bars and pubs that will now encroach more into the area. When we first heard of the Vision for Salisbury we envisaged a new market square with seating beneath the trees, possibly a fountain in the middle of the square and NOT the planned rivulet running from top to bottom. Either make the area hospitable or let the motorists back in and regain the income from parking charges, or are you going to hoist all areas around Salisbury to make up for the forthcoming shortfall?????? John Todman
  • Score: 5

11:31am Thu 27 Feb 14

LBSmith says...

Any restriction which is not or cannot be enforced is useless. The police have indicated that they are not very interested in 20mph enforcement. Some drivers will honour it and no doubt get overtaken by speeding 4x4s.
Any restriction which is not or cannot be enforced is useless. The police have indicated that they are not very interested in 20mph enforcement. Some drivers will honour it and no doubt get overtaken by speeding 4x4s. LBSmith
  • Score: 1

9:06pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Crudgington-Smythe says...

Well I for one think the refurbished square looks great. I can't see how anyone can think cars can park there any more - if you're local you will know you can't and if you're a tourist / non local surely the absence of cars would make you think twice?
The square only had what, 50 spaces? Easily accommodated a short distance across Market Walk which is rarely full and supports longer term parking than the short term that was Market Square.
As for "vistas" whilst yes a feature would be nice nothing has been taken away that was there before apart from 40 odd cars? I'm sure most tourists come to Salisbury to see the cathedral and ancient city and surely as a "vista" the square benefits from not having cars parked on it?
Letting cars park here will not bring income back - if people drive here they will park elsewhere not drive off.
Isn't it time the moaning about the square stopped? - I for one am looking forward to sitting in one of the coffee shops there in the summer, enjoying the sunshine and looking across the square unblighted by dozens of cars.
Well I for one think the refurbished square looks great. I can't see how anyone can think cars can park there any more - if you're local you will know you can't and if you're a tourist / non local surely the absence of cars would make you think twice? The square only had what, 50 spaces? Easily accommodated a short distance across Market Walk which is rarely full and supports longer term parking than the short term that was Market Square. As for "vistas" whilst yes a feature would be nice nothing has been taken away that was there before apart from 40 odd cars? I'm sure most tourists come to Salisbury to see the cathedral and ancient city and surely as a "vista" the square benefits from not having cars parked on it? Letting cars park here will not bring income back - if people drive here they will park elsewhere not drive off. Isn't it time the moaning about the square stopped? - I for one am looking forward to sitting in one of the coffee shops there in the summer, enjoying the sunshine and looking across the square unblighted by dozens of cars. Crudgington-Smythe
  • Score: 5

11:11am Fri 28 Feb 14

RAFRetd says...

Salisbury has illegal levels of air pollution in several city centre streets. Air pollution has a major effect on children, pregnant mothers and the elderly.. It cannot be seen and apart from direct exposure to vehicle fumes, it cannot be smelt , it is truly a silent killer. By removing the car parking on the Market and Guildhall Squares the Council have done something very positive to alleviate this problem. Remember open spaces act as lungs for the City. Moreover, the more drivers that obey the 20 mph speed limits, go directly from the Churchill Way to a car park or use the Park & Rides the better it will be for everyone living, walking and cycling in Salisbury. Personally, I approve of the new look of the refurbished Squares but agree the Disabled WC could do with art work on three walls.
Salisbury has illegal levels of air pollution in several city centre streets. Air pollution has a major effect on children, pregnant mothers and the elderly.. It cannot be seen and apart from direct exposure to vehicle fumes, it cannot be smelt , it is truly a silent killer. By removing the car parking on the Market and Guildhall Squares the Council have done something very positive to alleviate this problem. Remember open spaces act as lungs for the City. Moreover, the more drivers that obey the 20 mph speed limits, go directly from the Churchill Way to a car park or use the Park & Rides the better it will be for everyone living, walking and cycling in Salisbury. Personally, I approve of the new look of the refurbished Squares but agree the Disabled WC could do with art work on three walls. RAFRetd
  • Score: 1

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