Rail station site could be used for custody suite

Salisbury Journal: Chief Constable Patrick Geenty Chief Constable Patrick Geenty

A NEW police custody suite could be built on the site of the old engine sheds at Salisbury Railway Station and Wiltshire’s police chief has threatened to resign if a facility is not retained in the city.

Plans for the new 14-cell custody suite were discussed at a meeting of the Criminal Court Users Group at Salisbury Crown Court last Wednesday.

And Wiltshire Police Chief Constable Pat Geenty said, despite it “not making sense in business terms”

to build a custody suite in Salisbury, there needs to be one in the city and he will resign if it doesn’t go ahead.

“I’m not going to be known for closing the custody suite in Salisbury on my watch,” he said. “I can reassure you that a custody suite is being built.”

The police have engaged architects but no contracts have been signed to start building on the land, which belongs to Wiltshire Council and is next to an area currently being looked at with a view to creating extra parking for the station.

The force’s plans will have to go through planning procedures but Mr Geenty said the aim is to open the new building in June 2015, but a statement from the office of Police and Crime Commissioner Angus Macpherson later admitted this would more likely be at the end of 2015.

The Wilton Road police station is closing in June this year and being renovated for use by the South Wiltshire University Technical College, set to open in September next year.

In the long term, police services will be split between three sites in the city, with officers at the Five Rivers community campus, the council offices at Bourne Hill and the new custody suite.

During the interim period, custody cases will be taken to Melksham but concerns have been raised about the time it will take for solicitors to travel to clients in custody in Melksham, and about arrangements for defendants needing to sign in at a local police station as part of bail conditions.

Solicitor Richard Griffiths said: “It is totally uneconomic to travel all the way to Melksham.

“The advantage of having a custody suite in Salisbury is that we can get there quickly. I have never gone to Melksham without having to wait an inordinate amount of time.”

Police and Crime Commissioner Angus Macpherson said the possibility of using the court’s holding cells had been looked into but it cannot be done as the cells don’t meet Home Office regulations for overnight cases. He added that his office will be seeking to get contracts signed as soon as possible.

A public meeting about the plans is set to take place in Salisbury on Monday, May 19 at the City Hall.

Further details will be announced closer to the time.

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10:07am Thu 24 Apr 14

karlmarx says...

The electorate of Salisbury city are rightly impressed with how well the planned closure of Salisbury police station is going. I always enjoy a good Keystone Cops comedy but wasn't aware that they were still making them these days.
I look forward to the comments of those who thought that this crazy 'plan' was ever going to work, nine jobs?
The electorate of Salisbury city are rightly impressed with how well the planned closure of Salisbury police station is going. I always enjoy a good Keystone Cops comedy but wasn't aware that they were still making them these days. I look forward to the comments of those who thought that this crazy 'plan' was ever going to work, nine jobs? karlmarx
  • Score: 15

11:56am Thu 24 Apr 14

salisburysaint says...

So, we nearly got enough parking for commuters at the train station.............
..This is hopeless, long term parking is being taken away from the city centre, or at least close enough to the station to be useful. park and ride doesn't support commuter hours. This smacks of trying to force a solution through for an ill-considered plan.
So, we nearly got enough parking for commuters at the train station............. ..This is hopeless, long term parking is being taken away from the city centre, or at least close enough to the station to be useful. park and ride doesn't support commuter hours. This smacks of trying to force a solution through for an ill-considered plan. salisburysaint
  • Score: 16

2:21pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Lori Hasselback says...

Call his bluff. Let him resign. Nobody is indispensable.
Call his bluff. Let him resign. Nobody is indispensable. Lori Hasselback
  • Score: -4

2:42pm Thu 24 Apr 14

gingin says...

Lori Hasselback wrote:
Call his bluff. Let him resign. Nobody is indispensable.
Quite right and take "nine jobs" with him, they couldn't run a p--s up in a brewery!!
[quote][p][bold]Lori Hasselback[/bold] wrote: Call his bluff. Let him resign. Nobody is indispensable.[/p][/quote]Quite right and take "nine jobs" with him, they couldn't run a p--s up in a brewery!! gingin
  • Score: 5

2:43pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Old Salisbury Boy says...

Surely with all the property that the Wiltshire Council is planning to sell off in Salisbury a centrally located site for conversion could be found, how about the Old Fire station in Salt Lane? Grosvenor House by the Rail Station? the many sites/buildings that the council is giving to the developers of the Central Car Park/Maltings/Coach Station. The offices at Churchfields, the Technical College etc etc etc
Surely with all the property that the Wiltshire Council is planning to sell off in Salisbury a centrally located site for conversion could be found, how about the Old Fire station in Salt Lane? Grosvenor House by the Rail Station? the many sites/buildings that the council is giving to the developers of the Central Car Park/Maltings/Coach Station. The offices at Churchfields, the Technical College etc etc etc Old Salisbury Boy
  • Score: 15

3:37pm Thu 24 Apr 14

salisburysaint says...

Why do the council need so many city centre buildings to ply their trade? Could they not all move out of town (perhaps the custody suite at Melksham) somewhere such as the park and ride sites freeing up multiple buildings in the city for the police to take the badly behaved? Bourne Hill would make a great custody suite, council workers wouldn't have to drive in to town and finally the park and ride sites would actually be used for a purpose, that purpose being somewhere for the council to park whilst they take us for a ride.
Why do the council need so many city centre buildings to ply their trade? Could they not all move out of town (perhaps the custody suite at Melksham) somewhere such as the park and ride sites freeing up multiple buildings in the city for the police to take the badly behaved? Bourne Hill would make a great custody suite, council workers wouldn't have to drive in to town and finally the park and ride sites would actually be used for a purpose, that purpose being somewhere for the council to park whilst they take us for a ride. salisburysaint
  • Score: 15

4:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

AuraTodd says...

Thought the area was going to be used for more railway users parking?
Thought the area was going to be used for more railway users parking? AuraTodd
  • Score: 10

12:46pm Sat 26 Apr 14

karlmarx says...

AuraTodd wrote:
Thought the area was going to be used for more railway users parking?
Very good point. It seems that this area is going to be used for various projects, extra long stay parking for rail commuters, custody suite, coach station, bus station etc... Of course it can only be used for one.
It appears to be the Panacea for all of Wiltshire/Salisbury Councils own goals in allowing all of these shambles to happen and, provide or invest in no alternatives. Depending on which of these shambles is the flavour of the month, the old engine sheds at Salisbury railway station is always the answer to the problem. I'm amazed they haven't directed Sainsburys there as well.
[quote][p][bold]AuraTodd[/bold] wrote: Thought the area was going to be used for more railway users parking?[/p][/quote]Very good point. It seems that this area is going to be used for various projects, extra long stay parking for rail commuters, custody suite, coach station, bus station etc... Of course it can only be used for one. It appears to be the Panacea for all of Wiltshire/Salisbury Councils own goals in allowing all of these shambles to happen and, provide or invest in no alternatives. Depending on which of these shambles is the flavour of the month, the old engine sheds at Salisbury railway station is always the answer to the problem. I'm amazed they haven't directed Sainsburys there as well. karlmarx
  • Score: 8

6:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

AuraTodd says...

I think parking for railway passengers is more important.
I think parking for railway passengers is more important. AuraTodd
  • Score: 8

7:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

vcg507 says...

This is turning into more of a farce than I believed possible! The proposed site for the new Custody Suite was first looked at by the UTC when they originally went looking for a location. And guess what? They turned it down as the land is badly contaminated and would have cost a fortune to put right. So they then kick the Police out of the station and now the Police are looking at the contaminated site. You could not make this up! And I will wager that the build cost for a Custody Suite will exceed £20mn. Remind me angus how much you are getting for the sale of the existing Police site? Last time we asked you didnt even know! What a bunch of idiots.
This is turning into more of a farce than I believed possible! The proposed site for the new Custody Suite was first looked at by the UTC when they originally went looking for a location. And guess what? They turned it down as the land is badly contaminated and would have cost a fortune to put right. So they then kick the Police out of the station and now the Police are looking at the contaminated site. You could not make this up! And I will wager that the build cost for a Custody Suite will exceed £20mn. Remind me angus how much you are getting for the sale of the existing Police site? Last time we asked you didnt even know! What a bunch of idiots. vcg507
  • Score: 15

9:07am Sun 27 Apr 14

vcg507 says...

Would it be too much to ask that the Chief Constable himself attends the next public meeting in May, rather than sending his staff who clearly didn't have any answers or influence?
Would it be too much to ask that the Chief Constable himself attends the next public meeting in May, rather than sending his staff who clearly didn't have any answers or influence? vcg507
  • Score: 10

3:15pm Sun 27 Apr 14

FreeBornJohn says...

You can sense the underlying politics. Angus 9 jobs wants to shut the Police Station so he can suck up to the Leader of Wilts council The Chief is dead set against but what can he do, say no and he's out the door, so he threatens to resign.

Well wake up. The decision to close the station is a disaster for Policing in the south of the county. It an abdication of responsibility that will bankrupt the service. A new Custody on the rail site will cost more than £20m, £20m Wilts Police do not have. So if Angus agrees (and he does not want to) he will sign a £20m contract that means he will have to lay off hundreds of staff or sick with Police and prisoners moving all over the place transporting prisoners and wasting millions.

9 Jobs incompetence has painted Wilts Police into a corner, its lose-lose. But by the time it all come to a head he'll be off to a nice job in Wilts council.

And of course we are just about to dip below 1000Poice Officers, the chief threatened to resign if this happened.
You can sense the underlying politics. Angus 9 jobs wants to shut the Police Station so he can suck up to the Leader of Wilts council The Chief is dead set against but what can he do, say no and he's out the door, so he threatens to resign. Well wake up. The decision to close the station is a disaster for Policing in the south of the county. It an abdication of responsibility that will bankrupt the service. A new Custody on the rail site will cost more than £20m, £20m Wilts Police do not have. So if Angus agrees (and he does not want to) he will sign a £20m contract that means he will have to lay off hundreds of staff or sick with Police and prisoners moving all over the place transporting prisoners and wasting millions. 9 Jobs incompetence has painted Wilts Police into a corner, its lose-lose. But by the time it all come to a head he'll be off to a nice job in Wilts council. And of course we are just about to dip below 1000Poice Officers, the chief threatened to resign if this happened. FreeBornJohn
  • Score: 14

6:10pm Sun 27 Apr 14

nesspah says...

I would like to repeat my public apology for having voted for these buffoons.

Yes, I realise that such people couldn't get a private-sector job if they tried, but I'm sorry for having been so gullible.

From now on I'm voting UKIP.
I would like to repeat my public apology for having voted for these buffoons. Yes, I realise that such people couldn't get a private-sector job if they tried, but I'm sorry for having been so gullible. From now on I'm voting UKIP. nesspah
  • Score: 8

10:18pm Sun 27 Apr 14

DevizesOldDuffer says...

So, did a conversation take place between the Commissioner and the Chief Constable before the agreement to close and sell the existing facilities?

If so, did the Chief Constable threaten to resign then?

If not, well who is running the circus?

And.... if the decision to close the existing suite is irreversible, and a replacement cannot be obtained/built, then sorry Chief, it did happen on 'your watch'.

What a fiasco!
So, did a conversation take place between the Commissioner and the Chief Constable before the agreement to close and sell the existing facilities? If so, did the Chief Constable threaten to resign then? If not, well who is running the circus? And.... if the decision to close the existing suite is irreversible, and a replacement cannot be obtained/built, then sorry Chief, it did happen on 'your watch'. What a fiasco! DevizesOldDuffer
  • Score: 11

10:47am Mon 28 Apr 14

Grampie says...

nesspah wrote:
I would like to repeat my public apology for having voted for these buffoons.

Yes, I realise that such people couldn't get a private-sector job if they tried, but I'm sorry for having been so gullible.

From now on I'm voting UKIP.
You do know that UKIP has some very strange people in their organisation. Compared to UKIP the current incumbents in power are paragons of efficiency compared to that lot of right wing Tories.

It will be difficult to know who to vote for in forthcoming elections, but never UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]nesspah[/bold] wrote: I would like to repeat my public apology for having voted for these buffoons. Yes, I realise that such people couldn't get a private-sector job if they tried, but I'm sorry for having been so gullible. From now on I'm voting UKIP.[/p][/quote]You do know that UKIP has some very strange people in their organisation. Compared to UKIP the current incumbents in power are paragons of efficiency compared to that lot of right wing Tories. It will be difficult to know who to vote for in forthcoming elections, but never UKIP. Grampie
  • Score: -2

7:50pm Mon 28 Apr 14

AuraTodd says...

You do know that UKIP has some very strange people in their organisation.

True, one said that gay people caused the storms. What a load of stupid twaddle, what has someone's sexuality got to do with storms!
You do know that UKIP has some very strange people in their organisation. True, one said that gay people caused the storms. What a load of stupid twaddle, what has someone's sexuality got to do with storms! AuraTodd
  • Score: 1

8:15pm Mon 28 Apr 14

FreeBornJohn says...

UKIP only have one policy, get out of the EU. There other policies are mad e.g. get rid of maternity leave for women. Bonkers!

With regard to the PCC nine jobs decision to close the station, that's a UKIP policy as well. All madness, and yet these people have put themselves up to be voted in, and we are voting them in.

I suspect UKIP will come 2nd in the EU elections, crazy.
UKIP only have one policy, get out of the EU. There other policies are mad e.g. get rid of maternity leave for women. Bonkers! With regard to the PCC nine jobs decision to close the station, that's a UKIP policy as well. All madness, and yet these people have put themselves up to be voted in, and we are voting them in. I suspect UKIP will come 2nd in the EU elections, crazy. FreeBornJohn
  • Score: -1

9:24am Tue 29 Apr 14

AuraTodd says...

There other policies are mad e.g. get rid of maternity leave for women. Bonkers!

Agreed. Who said that about banning maternity leave for women?, That's silly. Obviously from a man who has no idea about childbirth.
There other policies are mad e.g. get rid of maternity leave for women. Bonkers! Agreed. Who said that about banning maternity leave for women?, That's silly. Obviously from a man who has no idea about childbirth. AuraTodd
  • Score: 0

9:59am Tue 29 Apr 14

gingin says...

"Ban maternity leave for women" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What world are these people living in? All the parties have policies that are most disagreeable but UKIP well why would you vote for a party that wants to put back progress by hundreds of years?
"Ban maternity leave for women" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What world are these people living in? All the parties have policies that are most disagreeable but UKIP well why would you vote for a party that wants to put back progress by hundreds of years? gingin
  • Score: 0

3:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

AuraTodd says...

I'll vote for the monster raving loony party, they have a cat in charge...
I'll vote for the monster raving loony party, they have a cat in charge... AuraTodd
  • Score: 4

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