Blair warns on radical Islam threat

Former prime minister Tony Blair has warned that the West must 
focus on tackling the threat from radical Islam

Former prime minister Tony Blair has warned that the West must focus on tackling the threat from radical Islam

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Tony Blair has urged a deal with Bashar Assad in Syria and further Nato involvement in Libya as part of a "titanic" struggle against radical Islam.

The former prime minister said the West had to focus its efforts on tackling religious extremism, insisting it lay behind most of world's most intractable problems.

Failure to shake off the legacy of Iraq and "take sides" with moderates in the Middle East and beyond could mean the 21st century is dominated by conflict rather than peaceful co-operation, he warned in a speech to Bloomberg in London.

Mr Blair described a global crisis with its roots in "a radicalised and politicised view of Islam, an ideology that distorts and warps Islam's true message".

"The threat of this radical Islam is not abating. It is growing. It is spreading across the world," he said.

"It is destabilising communities and even nations. It is undermining the possibility of peaceful co-existence in an era of globalisation.

"And in the face of this threat we seem curiously reluctant to acknowledge it and powerless to counter it effectively."

Mr Blair - Middle East envoy for the quartet of the United Nations, EU, US and Russia - stressed the need for the issue to be at the "top of the agenda".

He insisted that tensions with Russian President Vladimir Putin should not be allowed to prevent co-operation to address the problem.

Conceding that recent conflicts such as Iraq had eroded the willingness of Western nations to act, Mr Blair said he hoped those interventions would be seen differently in future.

"There is no commitment that doesn't mean taking a risk," he said.

"It does not mean that we have to repeat the enormous commitment of Iraq and Afghanistan. It may well be that in time people come to view the impact of those engagements differently.

"But there is no need, let alone appetite, to do that.

"I completely understand why our people feel they have done enough, more than enough.

"And when they read of those we have tried to help spurning our help, criticising us, even trying to kill us, they're entitled to feel aggrieved and to say 'We're out'.

"However, as the Afghans who braved everything to vote show us, and the Iraqis who will also come out and vote despite all the threats and the inadequacy of the system they now live in demonstrate, those who spurn our help are only part of the story.

"There are others whose spirit and determination stay undaunted.

"This is not a mess where everyone is as bad as each other. In other words, it matters and there is a side we should be proud to take."

Mr Blair said a "perverse" interpretation of Islam had often left people in the Middle East facing a choice between a relatively tolerant authoritarian system and a hard-line theocracy.

Setting out his views on a range of troubled countries, the former premier insisted that the West had to be consistent in supporting the principles of religious freedom and rule-based democracies.

In relation to Libya, he said that meant recognising we bore a "responsibility" for the chaotic situation that has developed since Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown.

"Their urgent need is for security sector reform. We have made some attempts to do so," he said.

"But obviously the scale of the task and the complications of the militia make it very hard.

"But Libya is not Iraq or Afghanistan. It is not impossible to help and Nato has the capability to do so.

"However reluctant we are to make this commitment, we have to recognise the de-stabilising impact Libya is having at present.

"If it disintegrates completely, it will affect the whole of the region around it and feed the instability in sub-Saharan Africa."

Mr Blair branded the turmoil in Syria "an unmitigated disaster", calling for a settlement with President Assad - whom he has previously condemned.

"We are now in a position where both Assad staying and the opposition taking over seem bad options," he said.

"The former is responsible for creating this situation. But the truth is that there are so many fissures and problems around elements within the opposition that people are rightly wary now of any solution that is an outright victory for either side.

"Repugnant though it may seem, the only way forward is to conclude the best agreement possible even if it means in the interim President Assad stays for a period.

"Should even this not be acceptable to him, we should consider active measures to help the opposition and force him to the negotiating table, including no-fly zones whilst making it clear that the extremist groups should receive no support from any of the surrounding nations."

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11:31am Wed 23 Apr 14

welshmen says...

We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country .

Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....
We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country . Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters .... welshmen
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5:48pm Wed 23 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

welshmen wrote:
We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country .

Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....
I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments.


If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs.

I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel.

I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country.
I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes.
You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower.

I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades.
Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth,
The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,.

And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country . Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....[/p][/quote]I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments. If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs. I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel. I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country. I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes. You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower. I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades. Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth, The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,. And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today. varteg1
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6:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

welshmen says...

varteg1 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country .

Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....
I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments.


If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs.

I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel.

I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country.
I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes.
You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower.

I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades.
Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth,
The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,.

And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.
Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's.

Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day.

As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT....
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country . Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....[/p][/quote]I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments. If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs. I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel. I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country. I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes. You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower. I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades. Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth, The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,. And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.[/p][/quote]Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's. Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day. As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT.... welshmen
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7:18pm Wed 23 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

welshmen wrote:
varteg1 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country .

Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....
I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments.


If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs.

I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel.

I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country.
I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes.
You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower.

I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades.
Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth,
The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,.

And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.
Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's.

Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day.

As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT....
Still does not alter the fact your idiotic whimpering on about the BNP is nothing concrete, but certainly demonstrates the wanderings of a warped mentality.

The ONLY way your sort could reorganise the political spectrum of this country is by means of dictatorial management.

There would be no latitude for cooperative effort between intelligent people, as was shown to be the case in Germany under that regime, which attempted tom eradicate the most educated, artistic, and beneficial people the Jews.

It demonstrates your own lack of nous when you fail to recognise the FACT that the BNP, and potentially UKIP, are based in fascist dogma.

As for elitist, I can agree, as I would certainly love to become the second dictator of Britain, following his control, but not necessarily adopting his religiousness, ....Oliver Cromwell.

But I am afraid you, and your skin head **** bashing, would not be part of MY agenda.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country . Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....[/p][/quote]I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments. If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs. I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel. I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country. I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes. You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower. I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades. Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth, The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,. And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.[/p][/quote]Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's. Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day. As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT....[/p][/quote]Still does not alter the fact your idiotic whimpering on about the BNP is nothing concrete, but certainly demonstrates the wanderings of a warped mentality. The ONLY way your sort could reorganise the political spectrum of this country is by means of dictatorial management. There would be no latitude for cooperative effort between intelligent people, as was shown to be the case in Germany under that regime, which attempted tom eradicate the most educated, artistic, and beneficial people the Jews. It demonstrates your own lack of nous when you fail to recognise the FACT that the BNP, and potentially UKIP, are based in fascist dogma. As for elitist, I can agree, as I would certainly love to become the second dictator of Britain, following his control, but not necessarily adopting his religiousness, ....Oliver Cromwell. But I am afraid you, and your skin head **** bashing, would not be part of MY agenda. varteg1
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8:50pm Wed 23 Apr 14

MSG says...

Islamic fundamentalists would not be so angry if Tony had not started his illegal wars !!
Islamic fundamentalists would not be so angry if Tony had not started his illegal wars !! MSG
  • Score: 1

10:24pm Wed 23 Apr 14

welshmen says...

varteg1 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
varteg1 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country .

Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....
I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments.


If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs.

I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel.

I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country.
I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes.
You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower.

I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades.
Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth,
The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,.

And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.
Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's.

Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day.

As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT....
Still does not alter the fact your idiotic whimpering on about the BNP is nothing concrete, but certainly demonstrates the wanderings of a warped mentality.

The ONLY way your sort could reorganise the political spectrum of this country is by means of dictatorial management.

There would be no latitude for cooperative effort between intelligent people, as was shown to be the case in Germany under that regime, which attempted tom eradicate the most educated, artistic, and beneficial people the Jews.

It demonstrates your own lack of nous when you fail to recognise the FACT that the BNP, and potentially UKIP, are based in fascist dogma.

As for elitist, I can agree, as I would certainly love to become the second dictator of Britain, following his control, but not necessarily adopting his religiousness, ....Oliver Cromwell.

But I am afraid you, and your skin head **** bashing, would not be part of MY agenda.
I din't have a skin head, I have a full head of hair and a good brain under it, over a Million people voted for the British National Party in the last EU elections, they don't resemble Nazi's unlike your Party, can't debate anything that upsets the people threatening our kid's future, what Fascist dogma are they engaged in? what BNP policy is Nazi or Fascist?, you do know they are a Legal British Party the same as the others, or you believe all the brain washing stuff, how about the Grooming Gangs, the Islamic threat, the Bogus asylum seekers, the wars that were illegal, our involvement in the Syrian war averted, thanks to good old Nick, you think your special your not, and I don't whimper about anyone or thing unlike your moaning and whinging, your like an old woman man up an do something for our Country you wimp, you want to be a dictator like Oliver Cromwell or is Adolf Hitler more to you liking....
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: We had Jack Straw a couple of day's ago backing Cameroon on his declaration telling us what we already know,"we are a Christian Country" and now we got Mr Evil him self telling us what we already know, "Islam is a Radical Ideology", they are only interested in Colonising and making the UK an Islamic State, and what's very sad about that is the Liberal Elite want this for our British demise, so now it's official lets get this sorted out before there's six Million of them in our Country . Just for the record The British National Party have been say this for years and years just as they reported the Muslim grooming Gangs, no one in Government would believe them, or some on here, (shame on you) from that hundreds of young white and Asian girls were and still being abused, largely because of the PC brigade who like calling the truth tellers names, like on here, Pwlldu, GVM, Vateg1, Howie, all pro Multiculturalism and by most of their post's, British Haters and Immigrants from anywhere supporters ....[/p][/quote]I suggest you refrain from making libellous comments. If you were educated enough to read and comprehend you will determine that I am one of the most rabid anti Islam commentators on this and other blogs. I am not a supporter of multiculturalism, again your comment is incorrect and verging on libel. I have no comment to make about the ethnicity of people, I do and have said for many years that an immigrant to this country, in keeping alive his cultural background, should do so within his own immediate family, home, and general community, but he should also, primarily, adapt and adopt the culture he finds himself immersed in by living in this country. I also have made my stance quite obvious and clear, in the matter of both local nationalism and religion. Neither of which bear strict scrutiny made by one of intelligence, which I have to say, is not one of your attributes. You constant whining about the BNP etc., demonstrates your inability to think straight or logically. Sad I know, but we cannot all have a high level of intellect, nature has generated just a few of us to have that level of brainpower. I do not hate Britain, but have a high disregard form the way we have been taken down the road to perdition with all the surveillance and anti people legislation, especially over the last few decades. Given the best financial circumstances, I would be off like a shot to more tolerant places, in the main, to escape the likes of you. For, although you don't recognised it, it is your sort that has been responsible for turning MY home land into the most watched and controlled place on earth, The USSR, China and places ruled by hard line dictators would without doubt be extremely jealous on the control freaks who have stolen this once great country,. And you, with your BNP mentality would have us taken further towards a fascist state than it is hardly possible to travel today.[/p][/quote]Load of Rubbish from the Liberal Elitist, The British National Party are miles a head of your limited intellect wood doctor, you presume your self to be well above your limited station as an intellect, if you had that intellect you would agree with the Policies of the British National Party, as their Policies far out shine any of your Liberal Elite's. Your Liberal Elite Government has turned this Country into a fascist state, unable to debate threats to our Country with out the likes of you and your Nazi friends name calling as above, my loyalty is for my country and dislike those who are against, you fall in that category, no idea how to implement a good policy if it fell on your brainwashed head, all you advocate is more of the same destructive policies that have got this Country into the mess it's in to day. As for your stance against Islam I apologise, but you need to wise up and stop saying it's my fault that your home and land is the most watched and controlled on earth, where do you live in a Penthouse on top of Mi5, the British National Party want freedom for the British people , freedom of speech, freedom of movement in our own Country, not as now with no go areas which your Government has allowed to flourish under the Jackboot of Islam, yes your way is the right way, NOT....[/p][/quote]Still does not alter the fact your idiotic whimpering on about the BNP is nothing concrete, but certainly demonstrates the wanderings of a warped mentality. The ONLY way your sort could reorganise the political spectrum of this country is by means of dictatorial management. There would be no latitude for cooperative effort between intelligent people, as was shown to be the case in Germany under that regime, which attempted tom eradicate the most educated, artistic, and beneficial people the Jews. It demonstrates your own lack of nous when you fail to recognise the FACT that the BNP, and potentially UKIP, are based in fascist dogma. As for elitist, I can agree, as I would certainly love to become the second dictator of Britain, following his control, but not necessarily adopting his religiousness, ....Oliver Cromwell. But I am afraid you, and your skin head **** bashing, would not be part of MY agenda.[/p][/quote]I din't have a skin head, I have a full head of hair and a good brain under it, over a Million people voted for the British National Party in the last EU elections, they don't resemble Nazi's unlike your Party, can't debate anything that upsets the people threatening our kid's future, what Fascist dogma are they engaged in? what BNP policy is Nazi or Fascist?, you do know they are a Legal British Party the same as the others, or you believe all the brain washing stuff, how about the Grooming Gangs, the Islamic threat, the Bogus asylum seekers, the wars that were illegal, our involvement in the Syrian war averted, thanks to good old Nick, you think your special your not, and I don't whimper about anyone or thing unlike your moaning and whinging, your like an old woman man up an do something for our Country you wimp, you want to be a dictator like Oliver Cromwell or is Adolf Hitler more to you liking.... welshmen
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10:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

MSG wrote:
Islamic fundamentalists would not be so angry if Tony had not started his illegal wars !!
They were well on the road to causing instability in the West long before Blair left school.

The rot set in once the septics winkled the UK oil firms out of Saudi Arabia, and that was in the the between wars period.

That process started the run towards Opec, which gave inordinate sums of money to what was little more than desert dwelling Arabs, who's mind set was firmly rooted in the 13th century, a situation that has hardly altered in surrounding areas even though the Saudi regime has actually done some wonderful things in education, in their own country.

( Please, no comments about their poor downtrodden females, one has to have personal knowledge to understand what is afoot there).

So I have to say,. Blair had little to do with the situation in the middle east. he caught the chill from the meddling Americans who have created what is now the war zone we call the middle east.

Not that our political hierarchy are innocent, they have relied far too much of that so called special relationship that saw us in hock to Washington from the earliest days of WW2, and which has been the excuse to keep us on board their battlewagon.
[quote][p][bold]MSG[/bold] wrote: Islamic fundamentalists would not be so angry if Tony had not started his illegal wars !![/p][/quote]They were well on the road to causing instability in the West long before Blair left school. The rot set in once the septics winkled the UK oil firms out of Saudi Arabia, and that was in the the between wars period. That process started the run towards Opec, which gave inordinate sums of money to what was little more than desert dwelling Arabs, who's mind set was firmly rooted in the 13th century, a situation that has hardly altered in surrounding areas even though the Saudi regime has actually done some wonderful things in education, in their own country. ( Please, no comments about their poor downtrodden females, one has to have personal knowledge to understand what is afoot there). So I have to say,. Blair had little to do with the situation in the middle east. he caught the chill from the meddling Americans who have created what is now the war zone we call the middle east. Not that our political hierarchy are innocent, they have relied far too much of that so called special relationship that saw us in hock to Washington from the earliest days of WW2, and which has been the excuse to keep us on board their battlewagon. varteg1
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9:03am Thu 24 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

Quote.......

# I din't have a skin head, I have a full head of hair and a good brain under it, over a Million people voted for the British National Party in the last EU elections, they don't resemble Nazi's unlike your Party, can't debate anything that upsets the people threatening our kid's future, what Fascist dogma are they engaged in? what BNP policy is Nazi or Fascist?, you do know they are a Legal British Party the same as the others,, how about the Grooming .........#


"Skin head" is a matter of perception not necessarily fact.

Again you make assumptions that are not borne out in reality....I belong to NO party.

Although I have great antipathy towards the 'grooming' I have to make
clear, it is not just Muslims doing that, there are plenty of your white Brits also engaging in such practice, that is why quite a few are sequestered in jails in Thailand, the Philipines and in various places in Africa, so although I see Islam written all over the reports I am not totally convinced all our own people are lily white when it comes to abusive behaviour.

You attacked me in your first message, I responded , you have simply carried on with your infantile attack, making assumptive commentary throughout.
# But in the end, your remarks demonstrate your inability to construct other than derogatory comment, which is, as is well recorded a feature of BNP argument, to denigrate any and all who call into question your underlying and lying anti social pattern of general behaviour.

So do carry on, you condemn yourself and your 'legally' accepted party with every written word.
Quote....... # I din't have a skin head, I have a full head of hair and a good brain under it, over a Million people voted for the British National Party in the last EU elections, they don't resemble Nazi's unlike your Party, can't debate anything that upsets the people threatening our kid's future, what Fascist dogma are they engaged in? what BNP policy is Nazi or Fascist?, you do know they are a Legal British Party the same as the others,, how about the Grooming .........# "Skin head" is a matter of perception not necessarily fact. Again you make assumptions that are not borne out in reality....I belong to NO party. Although I have great antipathy towards the 'grooming' I have to make clear, it is not just Muslims doing that, there are plenty of your white Brits also engaging in such practice, that is why quite a few are sequestered in jails in Thailand, the Philipines and in various places in Africa, so although I see Islam written all over the reports I am not totally convinced all our own people are lily white when it comes to abusive behaviour. You attacked me in your first message, I responded , you have simply carried on with your infantile attack, making assumptive commentary throughout. # But in the end, your remarks demonstrate your inability to construct other than derogatory comment, which is, as is well recorded a feature of BNP argument, to denigrate any and all who call into question your underlying and lying anti social pattern of general behaviour. So do carry on, you condemn yourself and your 'legally' accepted party with every written word. varteg1
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