Ukip in new race row over Muslims

Ukip leader Nigel Farage insists his party is not racist

Ukip leader Nigel Farage insists his party is not racist

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Ukip was embroiled in a fresh race row after it emerged that one of its local election candidates has described Islam as a "totalitarian ideology" that is " against everything modern Britain stands for".

Labour said the "deeply offensive" views - contained in an email apparently sent last year to the London council on which Heino Vockrodt wishes to sit - undermined Nigel Farage's insistence that he did not lead a racist party.

In an angry diatribe complaining about an alleged planning breach by "the Afghan community" in Brent, north London, Mr Vockrodt said parts of the borough resembled Afghanistan's Helmand province.

"Being Muslims, they ignored both refusals and did it anyway," he wrote of what he said were unlawful changes to a cultural centre.

Political correctness was preventing the council taking action, he alleged, " for fear of being called racists, when, just like in all the other cases where Muslims are grooming children to be sex slaves under the eyes of the authorities, the council does nothing".

He claimed the neighbourhood was "already exploding under the weight of segregation" and shopkeepers had been " squeezed out by Muslims".

"The entire parade - once lovely owner/occupier shops - resembles Helmand Province now. Time to call in MI5 and MI6 for sure," he added.

"Islam is a mono-cultural, totalitarian ideology. It is NOT a religion. It is against multi-culturalism and only promotes its own culture. It is against everything modern Britain stands for."

In the message, sent in the early hours of the morning to the planning enforcement department, he said that while he supported a multi-ethnic society, "t he only culture applicable to this country is British" and warned the council not to ignore the " winds of change".

It is a fresh embarrassment for Ukip as it tries to fend off racism allegations following a series of scandals involving candidates, and a controversial poster campaign warning about Europeans coming to take UK jobs.

Party leader Mr Farage has sought to dispel the image, accusing the media of stirring up hatred against Ukip and appearing on a platform alongside a number of the party's black and ethnic minority candidates.

"I don't care what you call us but from this moment on, please, do not ever call us a racist party. We are not a racist party," he declared.

But one of the party's prominent British Asian Ukip supporters has quit, accusing Mr Farage of playing the race card to win votes.

Sanya-Jeet Thandi, a youth member who was previously put up to defend the party in television interviews, said its current direction was "terrifying".

The Labour leader of Brent council, Muhammed Butt, said: "Mr Vockrodt's odious comments are deeply offensive.

"Nigel Farage keeps claiming Ukip isn't a racist party, but that's a hard pill to swallow when its members have put forward an individual with such plainly bigoted views for election to public office.

"In Brent we draw strength from our diversity and the vibrancy it brings, and our community deserves better."

A Ukip spokesman said: "Ukip is a non-racist, non-sectarian party and all candidates and members are expected to uphold these values. Where evidence is produced to indicate a breach, it will be considered at the earliest opportunity by the national executive committee as part of an established disciplinary procedure."

Mr Farage expressed "surprise" at Ms Thandi's departure, suggesting she might have been "intimidated" into quitting.

"She may have been intimidated, I don't know quite why she changed her mind," he told BBC Radio 4's World at One.

"We hadn't changed in seven days, had we? Nothing had changed in seven days... She changed in seven days, we didn't.

"So it is surprising on that level.

"Really more surprising is one 21-year-old, who no longer held any position within the party at all - because since she had gone to the London School of Economics she had been coming under a fair bit of peer pressure over being in Ukip - one 21-year-old leaves and it is a big story for the BBC, it is huge on the front page of the national newspapers.

"I didn't see any coverage of the rally I had in London the week before, when we had four dozen of our black and ethnic minority candidates standing there saying we believe in Ukip."

Mr Farage insisted Ukip had the "best and fairest" immigration policy of any of the parties.

He also renewed his warning that 250,000 Romanians and Bulgarians could come to Britain over five years, despite official figures yesterday suggesting numbers had actually dropped 3,000 to 122,000 in the first three months after working restrictions were lifted.

"What you saw for the first few weeks was so small and statistically insignificant that just five people leaving, five people leaving could have produced those figures," he said.

"Any proper statistician will say that you have to look at these figures year on year."

He went on: "The floodgates have opened... Net migration in this country last year was up to 212,000.

"There are 2.2 million Romanians who have left already. They have gone to Spain, they have gone to Italy, they have gone to Germany.

"I have always said that most Romanians who will come to Britain will probably come here from Spain, given how dire the eurozone is.

"We can't get away from the fact that there are over 4,000 people a week from all parts of the European Union coming to settle in Britain."

He said he still believed 250,000 more Romanians and Bulgarians would come to Britain over five years.

"It could be far more than that, a lot depends on the economies. I suspect the biggest risk we have is the eurozone, which looks to be a catastrophe," Mr Farage added.

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4:49pm Thu 15 May 14

RealLivin says...

Its appears authorities are giving more leniency to Muslims, Muslims have been charged and sentence with grooming young girls for sex, but this is not racism or religious phobia, just because people are Muslim it doesn't mean the problem is Islam, its just people working the system and being sh*ts, the catholic church has yet to sort out its pedophile priest hood, the 2nd coming of Christ David Coresh killed many innocent people. Far to many people hide behind a perfectly decent religion while doing bad and as soon as you bring it to attention you are having a go at their religion and the press dont help by sensationalising it instead of the facts. I know of many Muslims how are applalled at the misrepresentation of there religion as were Christians when you couldnt walk down a street in northern Ireland without Catholics killing Protestants and Protestants killing Catholics. As usual religion is being used to justify people doing bad things or prevent people dont good.
Its appears authorities are giving more leniency to Muslims, Muslims have been charged and sentence with grooming young girls for sex, but this is not racism or religious phobia, just because people are Muslim it doesn't mean the problem is Islam, its just people working the system and being sh*ts, the catholic church has yet to sort out its pedophile priest hood, the 2nd coming of Christ David Coresh killed many innocent people. Far to many people hide behind a perfectly decent religion while doing bad and as soon as you bring it to attention you are having a go at their religion and the press dont help by sensationalising it instead of the facts. I know of many Muslims how are applalled at the misrepresentation of there religion as were Christians when you couldnt walk down a street in northern Ireland without Catholics killing Protestants and Protestants killing Catholics. As usual religion is being used to justify people doing bad things or prevent people dont good. RealLivin
  • Score: 3

5:01pm Thu 15 May 14

mistamina says...

What part of UK are you from Heino?
More interestingly: Any part of UK want ownership of this guy?
What part of UK are you from Heino? More interestingly: Any part of UK want ownership of this guy? mistamina
  • Score: 0

6:12pm Thu 15 May 14

welshmen says...

He said:
Islam as a "totalitarian ideology" that is " against everything modern Britain stands for". I say: that is not correct, they like our Democracy let's them continue to Colonise this Country, they like our JSA it allows Ajum Choudary and his Radicals to tell us how much they hate the British way of life, they enjoy our Police force keeping every body quite when anyone dare mention the "Is" word, they like our Government who bend over backwards to get them into the Police Force, Fire Service, Armed Forces, Local Government, Schools, and any other place they can, the Moderate Muslims who are a shining example to their Faith, they never complain about their brother Jihadists killing Christians or anyone else that is a non believer, they never marched against the Radicals that murdered 52 people in the London Tube and bus Bombings or the Savage murder of Drummer Lee Rigby, a serving British Soldier, with a placard reading NOT IN OUR NAME...no, they missed that opportunity like many others, what you people need to now and quick, that Muslims are only true to other Muslims not to NON believers that includes you who think they are OK.

From their Qur'an

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.

I say:
This is one you will hear the Imams say when confronted about Radicals killing in the Media:
Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 "(that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind")" while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.

Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.

At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).

This is a Religion that never, never marries into a Foreign Culture and that's us the British Culture, that's the way the Qur'an instructs them, they wont and cant change, life to death it's all in their Qur'an, as i see it for Islam to get along with democracy as in our Country, they need to drop the Jihad, and all the other unfriendly laws they live by and marry into our Culture and abide by our Laws not their splinter law Sharia Law, other wise leave and find an Islamic state of their Choice, and before you say they are British they have a right, well they gave that right up when they practices their Religion of Peace, Kill all non believers Christians and Jews....they are only faithful to Islam it's Brothers, and only Islam, not Britain or the British way of life, so all you Liberals who are quick with the racist card, bigot fascist, Nazi, think on this, a quote by one of our famous leaders Winston Churchill, "an a appeaser is like a person feeding a crocodile people and hoping he gets eaten last", which are you.....
He said: Islam as a "totalitarian ideology" that is " against everything modern Britain stands for". I say: that is not correct, they like our Democracy let's them continue to Colonise this Country, they like our JSA it allows Ajum Choudary and his Radicals to tell us how much they hate the British way of life, they enjoy our Police force keeping every body quite when anyone dare mention the "Is" word, they like our Government who bend over backwards to get them into the Police Force, Fire Service, Armed Forces, Local Government, Schools, and any other place they can, the Moderate Muslims who are a shining example to their Faith, they never complain about their brother Jihadists killing Christians or anyone else that is a non believer, they never marched against the Radicals that murdered 52 people in the London Tube and bus Bombings or the Savage murder of Drummer Lee Rigby, a serving British Soldier, with a placard reading NOT IN OUR NAME...no, they missed that opportunity like many others, what you people need to now and quick, that Muslims are only true to other Muslims not to NON believers that includes you who think they are OK. From their Qur'an Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves." From the Hadith: Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy."Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are: Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true. I say: This is one you will hear the Imams say when confronted about Radicals killing in the Media: Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 "(that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind")" while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief." Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed. Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims. At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, belying the probability that they were mostly unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981). This is a Religion that never, never marries into a Foreign Culture and that's us the British Culture, that's the way the Qur'an instructs them, they wont and cant change, life to death it's all in their Qur'an, as i see it for Islam to get along with democracy as in our Country, they need to drop the Jihad, and all the other unfriendly laws they live by and marry into our Culture and abide by our Laws not their splinter law Sharia Law, other wise leave and find an Islamic state of their Choice, and before you say they are British they have a right, well they gave that right up when they practices their Religion of Peace, Kill all non believers Christians and Jews....they are only faithful to Islam it's Brothers, and only Islam, not Britain or the British way of life, so all you Liberals who are quick with the racist card, bigot fascist, Nazi, think on this, a quote by one of our famous leaders Winston Churchill, "an a appeaser is like a person feeding a crocodile people and hoping he gets eaten last", which are you..... welshmen
  • Score: 5

6:36pm Thu 15 May 14

varteg1 says...

RealLivin wrote:
Its appears authorities are giving more leniency to Muslims, Muslims have been charged and sentence with grooming young girls for sex, but this is not racism or religious phobia, just because people are Muslim it doesn't mean the problem is Islam, its just people working the system and being sh*ts, the catholic church has yet to sort out its pedophile priest hood, the 2nd coming of Christ David Coresh killed many innocent people. Far to many people hide behind a perfectly decent religion while doing bad and as soon as you bring it to attention you are having a go at their religion and the press dont help by sensationalising it instead of the facts. I know of many Muslims how are applalled at the misrepresentation of there religion as were Christians when you couldnt walk down a street in northern Ireland without Catholics killing Protestants and Protestants killing Catholics. As usual religion is being used to justify people doing bad things or prevent people dont good.
There is a vast difference between two branches of the same religion having a spat, and the wholesale attempt to throttle an established society by an alien culture based in a totalitarian and unbending religion. Apart from a few resolute militants, the NI problem is all but resolved.

The ongoing and ever pervasive militancy of Islam with it's encroachment towards a future UK and European Caliphate, is nothing like what has happened in Ulster, that will pale into insignificance once the resistance commences against the Islamicisation of Europe.

The only problem with it being that the British will sleepwalk into the situation, and the day they really do wake up to it, will be that one day too late.

What is criminal in this creeping progression to a Muslim state, is that our present day leaderships, (of all parties and political hues) are tacitly allowing it to happen, despite the warninmgs published on this and other blogs
[quote][p][bold]RealLivin[/bold] wrote: Its appears authorities are giving more leniency to Muslims, Muslims have been charged and sentence with grooming young girls for sex, but this is not racism or religious phobia, just because people are Muslim it doesn't mean the problem is Islam, its just people working the system and being sh*ts, the catholic church has yet to sort out its pedophile priest hood, the 2nd coming of Christ David Coresh killed many innocent people. Far to many people hide behind a perfectly decent religion while doing bad and as soon as you bring it to attention you are having a go at their religion and the press dont help by sensationalising it instead of the facts. I know of many Muslims how are applalled at the misrepresentation of there religion as were Christians when you couldnt walk down a street in northern Ireland without Catholics killing Protestants and Protestants killing Catholics. As usual religion is being used to justify people doing bad things or prevent people dont good.[/p][/quote]There is a vast difference between two branches of the same religion having a spat, and the wholesale attempt to throttle an established society by an alien culture based in a totalitarian and unbending religion. Apart from a few resolute militants, the NI problem is all but resolved. The ongoing and ever pervasive militancy of Islam with it's encroachment towards a future UK and European Caliphate, is nothing like what has happened in Ulster, that will pale into insignificance once the resistance commences against the Islamicisation of Europe. The only problem with it being that the British will sleepwalk into the situation, and the day they really do wake up to it, will be that one day too late. What is criminal in this creeping progression to a Muslim state, is that our present day leaderships, (of all parties and political hues) are tacitly allowing it to happen, despite the warninmgs published on this and other blogs varteg1
  • Score: 1

6:58pm Thu 15 May 14

cliffwalker says...

The Sudanese state is only carrying out the will of god (as defined by Islam) and the law of the land. Surely UKIP is not complaining about good law abiding muslims like that?
The Sudanese state is only carrying out the will of god (as defined by Islam) and the law of the land. Surely UKIP is not complaining about good law abiding muslims like that? cliffwalker
  • Score: 1

10:05pm Thu 15 May 14

welshmen says...

cliffwalker wrote:
The Sudanese state is only carrying out the will of god (as defined by Islam) and the law of the land. Surely UKIP is not complaining about good law abiding muslims like that?
Have a look and understand what your Qur'an instructs you as a Muslim to do, if you don't do as instructed by your Qur'an you are not a Muslim or a follower of Islam, in other words your are fare game same as us non believers....problem with the British born and bred is they TRUST, and that is what allows the Coloniser to get to ware he is today, but a lot of the young British are waking up, they can see the two tier law system creeping in to our lives and the gagging laws to shut us up when every we question The Religion of Peace, well that wont work, first off lets get out of the European Union, plug that massive Immigrant hole up, then start deporting the unwanted foreign criminals....
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: The Sudanese state is only carrying out the will of god (as defined by Islam) and the law of the land. Surely UKIP is not complaining about good law abiding muslims like that?[/p][/quote]Have a look and understand what your Qur'an instructs you as a Muslim to do, if you don't do as instructed by your Qur'an you are not a Muslim or a follower of Islam, in other words your are fare game same as us non believers....problem with the British born and bred is they TRUST, and that is what allows the Coloniser to get to ware he is today, but a lot of the young British are waking up, they can see the two tier law system creeping in to our lives and the gagging laws to shut us up when every we question The Religion of Peace, well that wont work, first off lets get out of the European Union, plug that massive Immigrant hole up, then start deporting the unwanted foreign criminals.... welshmen
  • Score: 3

10:49pm Thu 15 May 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"Ukip in new race row over Muslims"

Islam isn't a race, it's a religion - just as Christians are of all races, nationalities and colours so are Muslims. Sorry, slightly off-topic, but on a similar note, one of the most ironic things that I hear from time to time are the claims made in courts of law that if someone says something offensive about Germans or discriminates against them then this is racism. This actually makes the progressive liberal left and the Nazis political bedfellows as the last person to insist that the Germans were a race was Adolf Hitler!

However, very often hatred of Muslims does turn out to be racism as the racists ignorantly assume that anyone from the Asian sub-continent must be Muslim.

All three patriarchal religions have been sexist, homophobic, transphobic, heterosexist and gender normative (five needlessly oppressive aspects of religions which I believe the world would be a better place without). If Ukip were really concerned about the oppression and reactionary philosophies they accuse Islam of then they'd also be attacking certain types of Christianity and Judaism which actually share exactly the same homophobia, transphobia and even sexism of terrorist organisations like Boko Haram and al Qaeda. It seems Ukip are making a scapegoat of Muslims in the same sort of way as certain Labour politicians make scapegoats of Jewish people - i.e. cynically to exploit Islamophobia and anti-Semitism respectively in a pathetic effort to gain votes.
"Ukip in new race row over Muslims" Islam isn't a race, it's a religion - just as Christians are of all races, nationalities and colours so are Muslims. Sorry, slightly off-topic, but on a similar note, one of the most ironic things that I hear from time to time are the claims made in courts of law that if someone says something offensive about Germans or discriminates against them then this is racism. This actually makes the progressive liberal left and the Nazis political bedfellows as the last person to insist that the Germans were a race was Adolf Hitler! However, very often hatred of Muslims does turn out to be racism as the racists ignorantly assume that anyone from the Asian sub-continent must be Muslim. All three patriarchal religions have been sexist, homophobic, transphobic, heterosexist and gender normative (five needlessly oppressive aspects of religions which I believe the world would be a better place without). If Ukip were really concerned about the oppression and reactionary philosophies they accuse Islam of then they'd also be attacking certain types of Christianity and Judaism which actually share exactly the same homophobia, transphobia and even sexism of terrorist organisations like Boko Haram and al Qaeda. It seems Ukip are making a scapegoat of Muslims in the same sort of way as certain Labour politicians make scapegoats of Jewish people - i.e. cynically to exploit Islamophobia and anti-Semitism respectively in a pathetic effort to gain votes. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 2
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