Two squares shouldn't be merged

THE Guildhall square and Market Place seem to have merged into one unit.

This after several centuries of being accepted as separate entities.

Only a line of trees going from Butcher Row to Blue Boar Row now remains as the dividing line between the two.

Gone are the benches that used to line the path and helped to define it.

As far as I am aware, the Guildhall and its accompanying square have historically formed one unit and enhanced our city.

The Civic Society, of which I am a long standing member, is supposed to support and protect this sort of image.

I feel it has failed in this objective.

The need for wheeled vehicles to have unrestricted access to The Guildhall steps from Blue Boar Row is, I feel, required to enable Civic and private hirers to make full use of facility.

Does anyone think that our new square is attractive? I do not.

Where are the colourful planters of previous years that enhanced our central areas for tourist and citizens alike?

An inquiry is to be held into the recently completed works, and I applaud that initiative.

Not to call for remedial work, but to help prevent mistakes in the future when the Central car park and Maltings projects come forward.

Colin Duller, Harnham

THE newly finished toilets in the Market Place only need a corrugated roof and they would look like air raid shelters.

A Kingston, Wilton

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6:18am Sat 22 Mar 14

karlmarx says...

Spot on. I couldn't figure out how they managed to make it into a sterile featureless prairie until you pointed out the merger of the two separate areas of the market place and the Guildhall Square. The only feature now that stands out is the toilet block/air raid shelter near the overflowing bus stops traffic bottleneck.
Spot on. I couldn't figure out how they managed to make it into a sterile featureless prairie until you pointed out the merger of the two separate areas of the market place and the Guildhall Square. The only feature now that stands out is the toilet block/air raid shelter near the overflowing bus stops traffic bottleneck. karlmarx
  • Score: -4

1:51pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Richard Clewer says...

The requirement to increase the flow between the two squares and allow events to happen on both came from the consultation. The City Council and business community in particular wanted to see greater use of the two spaces together.

The public were clear in the consultation that there should be some distinction between the two spaces. That has been done by varying the colour of the granite between them. Ideas for different patterns were rejected by the public during the consultation process.

It is worth noting that the Civic society were supportive of a greater linkage between the two squares and the removal of clutter between them.

If we were to put more barriers back between the squares it would make the Market Place less useful for holding events, not something I would support.

I would also add that there is not going to be an inquiry. The area board want to ask some questions about the process although have not yet suggested any dates.
The requirement to increase the flow between the two squares and allow events to happen on both came from the consultation. The City Council and business community in particular wanted to see greater use of the two spaces together. The public were clear in the consultation that there should be some distinction between the two spaces. That has been done by varying the colour of the granite between them. Ideas for different patterns were rejected by the public during the consultation process. It is worth noting that the Civic society were supportive of a greater linkage between the two squares and the removal of clutter between them. If we were to put more barriers back between the squares it would make the Market Place less useful for holding events, not something I would support. I would also add that there is not going to be an inquiry. The area board want to ask some questions about the process although have not yet suggested any dates. Richard Clewer
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Sustainer says...

Do any of you really prefer what was a featurless car park of crumbling tar macadam and uneven paving stones to the wonderful open space we have now? Pedestrians can now wander freely without the danger of being run over by someone looking for a parking space; can sit and enjoy a drink surrounded by beautiful medieval buildings and not be consumed by petrol fumes and simply enjoy the space.
It's already a hundred times better and will prove to be a real asset to the City.
Do any of you really prefer what was a featurless car park of crumbling tar macadam and uneven paving stones to the wonderful open space we have now? Pedestrians can now wander freely without the danger of being run over by someone looking for a parking space; can sit and enjoy a drink surrounded by beautiful medieval buildings and not be consumed by petrol fumes and simply enjoy the space. It's already a hundred times better and will prove to be a real asset to the City. Sustainer
  • Score: 5

11:36am Fri 28 Mar 14

karlmarx says...

Sustainer wrote:
Do any of you really prefer what was a featurless car park of crumbling tar macadam and uneven paving stones to the wonderful open space we have now? Pedestrians can now wander freely without the danger of being run over by someone looking for a parking space; can sit and enjoy a drink surrounded by beautiful medieval buildings and not be consumed by petrol fumes and simply enjoy the space.
It's already a hundred times better and will prove to be a real asset to the City.
Sounds like so ones been inhaling the fumes from the traffic hold ups caused by Wilts and Dorset buses laying up on public roads. Yes, a truly breathtaking view as you sit outside in the pouring rain and hailstones sipping your cafe latte, car drivers shouting and swearing at each other while bus drivers stop for a fag, very entertaining.
Should have got the infrastructure right first before putting the decorations up (note: ugly concrete pill box not included in the decorations).
[quote][p][bold]Sustainer[/bold] wrote: Do any of you really prefer what was a featurless car park of crumbling tar macadam and uneven paving stones to the wonderful open space we have now? Pedestrians can now wander freely without the danger of being run over by someone looking for a parking space; can sit and enjoy a drink surrounded by beautiful medieval buildings and not be consumed by petrol fumes and simply enjoy the space. It's already a hundred times better and will prove to be a real asset to the City.[/p][/quote]Sounds like so ones been inhaling the fumes from the traffic hold ups caused by Wilts and Dorset buses laying up on public roads. Yes, a truly breathtaking view as you sit outside in the pouring rain and hailstones sipping your cafe latte, car drivers shouting and swearing at each other while bus drivers stop for a fag, very entertaining. Should have got the infrastructure right first before putting the decorations up (note: ugly concrete pill box not included in the decorations). karlmarx
  • Score: -2

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